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Problem

A moq-lite subscriber that names an explicit floor never sees a fresh group created below the first group the publisher served. The publisher accepts the group, and the subscriber ends cleanly without it. moq-transport already delivers that group. Closes #4595.

This took over a stale empty claim from 2026-09-30. That branch had only the claim commit and no open PR.

Approach

SUBSCRIBE_OK Group names the first group served when the subscription resolves. It is not a new floor.

  • Pin the serve cursor to that group only when a pre-06 subscription named no group, in Rust and JS. Those drafts define an absent Group Start as the latest group, so the first group served becomes the floor.
  • On lite-06 and later, Group Start 0 is group 0, so nothing is pinned. A later group at or above the floor, still inside Subscriber Max Age, is delivered.
  • Stop folding an explicit pre-06 group 0 back to absent. Those drafts encode the sequence + 1, so group 0 is 1 and an omitted floor stays 0.
  • Aggregation is unchanged from main: a subscriber with no floor still clears the aggregate floor. The earlier revision let an explicit floor survive it, which starved an unfloored reader behind a resume floor above the live edge (see Decisions).

Decisions

Settled in this iteration (background agent, recommended options taken):

  1. Floor aggregation. The review found that keeping an explicit floor beside an unfloored reader starves that reader on a quiet track.

    • Resolve unfloored demand against the live edge inside this PR. Not possible on a relay whose copy is empty, which is the failing case.
    • Stack this PR on feat(net)!: carry Live apart from the subscription floor #5085 (lite-07 Live flag), which the maintainer chose on 2026-10-07 as the real fix. Blocks this PR on a draft with open decisions.
    • ✅ Drop this PR's floor-combining change and keep main's absorbing fold. The direct and lite-06+ relay cases still get the late group. The lite-05 relay case that mixes an unfloored reader with a floor of 0 moves to quest/m1/lite-live.md.
  2. Follow-on reverts. With the absorbing fold back, two pieces existed only to compensate, so both are removed. One stored lite-06's 0 as an explicit floor (Rust Bounds::subscription, JS publisher). The other was the moq-transport pre-20 group-0 live-join special case. Removing them also settles review findings 2 and 3.

  3. JS #sameSubscription. The omitted-versus-0 check now applies only before lite-06, so lite-06+ no longer sends a redundant SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE (review finding 4).

  4. SUBSCRIBE_OK Group wording (maintainer, 2026-10-09). The draft called groups below Group "unavailable" while also delivering them. The subscriber comments said lower groups "never arrive".

    • ✅ Reword: a subscriber does not wait for those groups, and a publisher still delivers one that arrives within max age. Fix the stale Rust and JS comments, and collapse the JS publisher's pin to one if. No behavior change.
    • Draft and comments only.
    • Leave as is.

Impact

  • No new public API and no new message.
  • Wire, pre-06: SUBSCRIBE and SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE now send an explicit group 0 as 1, the sequence + 1 those drafts already specify. This implementation previously wrote 0. Lite-06 and later bytes are unchanged.
    • Release note (lite-03..05): a subscriber that names group 0 now asks for group 0. Released publishers and relays already decode 1 as group 0, so they serve from the start of their cache where they used to join at the latest group. Through a relay, a join can carry more catch-up. An omitted floor still joins at the latest group.
  • Serving, all lite versions: SUBSCRIBE_START no longer raises the cursor to the first served group when the subscriber named a floor, or on lite-06+ at all.
  • Draft: SUBSCRIBE_OK Group is the first group served when the subscription resolves, not a new floor. A subscriber does not wait for groups between the requested floor and it, but a later one within Subscriber Max Age is still delivered. Corrected the note that offset Group Start by 1. Only Group End and Frame End are offset.

Tests

  • rs/moq-net/tests/late_lower_group.rs: an explicit floor of group 0 receives a fresh group 0 after group 1. This covers in-process, lite-05, lite-06, lite-07-wip, and moq-transport 14, 17, and 22, direct and through a relay. An unfloored lite-05 join drops it.
  • rs/moq-net/tests/quiet_catalog.rs: a peer resumes past a quiet catalog's only group, then an unfloored reader in-process at the relay still receives it. This fails with the earlier neutral fold.
  • explicit_floor_delivers_a_late_lower_group in the Rust publisher, plus JS publisher, codec, and aggregate tests.
  • just check passes. In just test interop --all, every go -> pair fails on the known moq-ffi Go publisher stall (feat(net): bound the publish serve loops with a per-loop budget #5088). python -> js timed out once under load and passes alone.

Alternatives

  • Decode lite-06 Group Start 0 as an explicit floor in the model. Not taken: the bytes stay the same, and it needs the neutral fold that starves.
  • Give lite-07 a new value so "join where the publisher starts" is distinct from group 0. That is feat(net)!: carry Live apart from the subscription floor #5085's Live flag.

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… floor allows it

A pre-06 subscribe that named no group still pins its floor to the first group
served. An explicit floor, including the group 0 that lite-06 encodes as 0,
keeps that floor, so a later group inside the max age is delivered. An omitted
floor no longer clears an explicit one when subscriptions are aggregated.

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JavaScript and Rust Lite encoders preserve explicit group-zero starts on pre-Lite06 wire formats. Publisher cursor handling raises the start floor only for omitted starts on versions that do not resolve omitted starts. Tests cover late lower-group delivery through direct and relayed paths. Draft text and comments clarify group-start offsets and delivery expectations. Quiet-catalog tests exercise fresh readers at the relay and at a separate origin.

Priority: ➖ Normal

Severity of issue fixed: Medium

Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to d79f4

Rust subscribers using pre-Lite06 without an explicit start can receive a lower group after the first group has been served, unlike JavaScript. Align this behavior or explicitly accept the compatibility gap before merging.

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# Conflicts:
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#	js/net/src/lite/subscriber.ts
#	js/net/src/track.ts
#	quest/m1/lite-late-lower-group.md
#	rs/moq-net/src/lite/publisher.rs
#	rs/moq-net/src/model/subscription.rs
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Automated review of 217773da (first Grok review; the head is cde18e2e plus a main merge)

The core fix looks right. Not pinning the cursor on SUBSCRIBE_START for an explicit floor, plus the pre-06 Some(0) → 1 encoding, delivers the late group 0 in the new matrix test. CI was green on cde18e2e and is still running on the merge. My concerns are about what the new floor aggregation and the lite-06 Some(0) storage do on mixed hops.

Should fix

1. An explicit floor above the live edge now starves an unfloored subscriber (rs/moq-net/src/model/subscription.rs:171 min_some, and the same rule in js/net/src/track.ts:194)

None used to absorb, so any unfloored subscriber pulled the aggregate back to the live edge. Now the explicit floor wins even when it is above the group the unfloored subscriber would join at. Here's a scenario on a quiet track like a catalog:

  • A resumed subscriber B fails over to a relay whose copy is fresh. It holds catalog group 3, so it subscribes with floor 4. The upstream SUBSCRIBE carries floor 4, and the publisher waits there.
  • An unfloored subscriber A then joins the same track. A could be in-process (a moq-mux/hang consumer, the Subscription::default() path) or a lite-05 viewer. The aggregate stays min_some(None, 4) = 4, so no SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE goes out, and lite/subscriber.rs:3576 keeps start_at(4) on the relay copy.
  • Before this PR, A cleared the floor and group 3 was served. Now A gets nothing until group 4 exists, which on a quiet catalog can be never. That's the same failure fix(moq-net): serve a quiet catalog after a resume floor is cleared #4940 just fixed from the other side.

On a video track the effect is milder: A misses the current group and waits up to a GOP. Lite-06+ viewers are safe only because Bounds::subscription now stores them as Some(0).

Fix idea: let an unfloored subscriber count as "the current latest group" when folding. Either keep None absorbing unless every explicit floor is at or below the track's known latest, or resolve None to a concrete floor at subscribe time so min naturally picks the lower one. Please add a relay test: a resume floor above the live edge on a quiet track, then an unfloored second subscriber that must still get the latest group.

Non-blocking

2. Lite-06/07 viewers through a relay now ask a draft-20+ upstream for Filter::Unfiltered instead of the live join (lite/publisher.rs:2236 Bounds::subscription → ietf/subscriber.rs subscribe_join, the start == Position::group(0) && end.is_none() arm near 6733)

Every lite-06+ subscription is now stored as Some(group 0), so the relay's aggregate upstream is Some(0). Pre-20 this is mapped back to the live join by joins_live. On moq-transport-20+, though, it becomes Unfiltered with no fill, where before it was NextObject plus the Relative(1) fill that carries the current group's head. Our own publisher treats Unfiltered as "start of the latest group" (ietf/publisher.rs filter_range), so the new test passes. A third-party draft-20 publisher that reads Unfiltered as "objects from now on" would start the viewer mid-group. Either map Some(0) from a stored lite-06 omission to the live join on draft-20 as well, or add a test with a lite-06 downstream and a moq-transport-22 upstream that asserts the first group arrives with frame 0.

3. On moq-transport-14..19, a floor of group 0 now gets less than a floor of group 1 (ietf/subscriber.rs:6674 joins_live, :6714)

Some(group 1) still sends an absolute joining FETCH from group 1. Some(group 0) now gets the relative live join, and live = true (:1770), so the subscriber drops everything below SUBSCRIBE_OK's Largest. On a non-empty track, that means a later fresh group 0 (the #4595 case) and any history are both dropped for an explicit floor of 0, while a floor of 1 keeps them. The PR body notes this, but the regression only covers the empty-track case. Please add a non-empty-track test that pins this behavior down, or fix the "head on neither stream" problem in the absolute join itself.

4. Nit: #sameSubscription (js/net/src/lite/subscriber.ts:1060) now treats omitted and { included: 0 } as different on every version. On lite-06+ they encode to identical bytes, so a flip sends a redundant SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE. It's harmless (the Rust publisher no-ops it), but you could gate the new check on !resolvesStart(version).

The docs and quest changes check out. The draft's Group Start note now matches encode_start_group. The deleted quest's only inbound link (in quest/m1/README.md) is removed in the same PR.

Verdict: ITERATE. Finding 1 is a real regression in floor aggregation for mixed unfloored and resumed subscribers. Findings 2–4 can be follow-ups.

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Reviewed commit: 217773d.

Direction: preserving an explicit floor across SUBSCRIBE_START and correcting pre-06 group-zero encoding are appropriate, but the aggregate-demand change needs iteration.

[P1] Confirmed the existing starvation finding in #5000 (comment): rs/moq-net/src/model/subscription.rs:168-172 and js/net/src/track.ts:185-203 now keep floor 4 when an unfloored reader joins a resumed reader at 4. If the quiet source's latest group is 3 and the relay copy lacks it, aggregate demand never widens; the new reader cannot receive the current catalog and may wait forever. Per-reader filtering cannot recover content the upstream never sends. Resolve unfloored demand against the live join or otherwise preserve it in the aggregate, and add the reverse-order mixed-reader regression (resume above live edge first, unfloored reader second).

Also retain non-empty pre-draft-20 coverage for the new group-zero live-join special case in ietf/subscriber.rs:6674-6680: it intentionally discards historical demand that an explicit higher floor still requests. The existing empty-track matrix does not exercise that distinction.

Verification: full seventeen-file diff, aggregate/update propagation, JS cursor replacement semantics, and discussion inspected. Static review only; no tests or independent CI verification. GitHub currently reports a merge conflict.

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# Conflicts:
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#	js/net/src/track.ts
#	quest/m1/README.md
#	quest/m1/lite-late-lower-group.md
#	rs/moq-net/src/model/subscription.rs
A resume floor above the live edge must not hide the latest group from a
reader that names no floor. Restore the absorbing floor fold in Rust and JS,
which also makes storing lite-06's 0 as an explicit floor and the
moq-transport group-0 live-join special case unnecessary. The mixed relay
case that needs both an explicit floor and a live join moves to the lite-07
Live flag quest.

Add the reverse-order regression: a peer resumes past a quiet catalog's only
group, then an unfloored reader at the relay still receives it.

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Grok review of 5a1daa0a (first review on this PR)

The core change looks right: Rust TrackRun::start and the JS publisher now raise the cursor to the first served group only for a pre-06 subscribe that named no group, and pre-06 encodes an explicit group 0 as 1 instead of folding it to "latest". The new late_lower_group.rs matrix (lite-05/06/07-wip and moq-transport 14/17/22, direct and relayed, plus the in-process control) covers the reported repro well. I found no blocking issues.

Non-blocking

  1. The PR body describes changes that aren't in this diff. The changed files are only lite/publisher, lite/subscribe, lite/subscriber.ts, the draft, quests and tests.
    • "When subscriptions are aggregated, an omitted floor no longer clears an explicit one. The loosest explicit floor wins." No aggregation code changed. The new track.test.ts case ("an unfloored subscriber clears a resume floor above the live edge") and a_quiet_catalog_reaches_an_unfloored_relay_reader_... assert the opposite: an unfloored subscriber still clears the floor. That matches lite-live.md taking over floor merging, so the code looks right and the bullet looks stale.
    • "On moq-transport drafts before 20, a floor at group 0 frame 0 uses the live join..." No ietf/ file changed. If that behavior already landed on main, drop the bullet. If not, it's missing, and the moq-transport-14/17 rows of the new test should be checked to make sure they pass for the right reason.
    • "Subscription.start of None is no longer documented as a floor of group 0." The Subscription docs in moq-net and js/net aren't touched, and the deleted quest asked for exactly that fix. Either update those doc comments or remove the claim.
  2. Lite-06+ unfloored joins now accept any late lower group within the budget. None on lite-06 is never pinned (publisher.rs ~2890, publisher.ts ~965). So a live viewer with a large or default max_delay can now get an old straggler after the live group. That's the intended draft semantics, but downstream consumers that assume monotonic groups after the first (the deleted quest mentioned moq-mux container::Consumer) are worth a quick check, or a test with an unfloored lite-06 reader through moq-mux.
  3. Pre-06 wire change. An explicit Some(0) now goes out as 1 ("replay from the beginning") where it used to be 0 ("latest"). An older lite-05 publisher will now replay history to these subscribers. That's correct per the draft and is flagged in the body, but it's worth a changelog note since it changes what old relays do.
  4. CI is still pending (Test, Check, WASM, etc.).

Verdict: MERGE once CI is green, ideally after fixing the PR body so it matches the diff.

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Addressed in 5a1daa0, which comes after merging main (7890789).

This replies to the Grok review and the OpenAI review of 217773da.

P1 / finding 1 (starvation): fixed by dropping the floor-combining change. The aggregate floor is main's absorbing fold again in Rust (min_floored) and JS, so an unfloored reader clears a resume floor above the live edge. I couldn't resolve None against the live edge inside this PR. In the failing case the relay's copy is empty, so there is no edge to resolve against. That is what #5085's Live flag is for. The lite-05 relay case that needs both, an unfloored reader beside a floor of 0, moves to quest/m1/lite-live.md.

Reverse-order regression: quiet_catalog.rs a_quiet_catalog_reaches_an_unfloored_relay_reader_when_a_peer_resumes_past_it. A peer resumes at group 1 past the only catalog group, then an unfloored reader in-process at the relay must still receive group 0. It runs on lite-06 and lite-07-wip, and fails with the neutral fold.

Finding 2 (lite-06 stored as group 0 reaching a draft-20 upstream as Unfiltered): resolved by removal. Bounds::subscription and its JS twin existed only so lite-06's 0 widened a resume under the neutral fold. With the absorbing fold back, lite-06 decodes as no floor again, as on main.

Finding 3 / OpenAI note (pre-20 group-0 live-join special case): resolved by removal. I didn't add non-empty coverage. Instead I deleted joins_live and the Some(group 0) arm in subscribe_join, since they only compensated for finding 2. An explicit floor of 0 is an absolute joining FETCH again, the same as floor 1. The late-group matrix still passes on moq-transport 14, 17, and 22.

Finding 4 (#sameSubscription): fixed. The omitted-versus-0 check now applies only before lite-06.

just check passes. In just test interop --all, only the known go -> stall (#5088) fails, plus a python -> js load timeout that passes when run alone.

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Reviewed commit: 5a1daa0.

No new actionable findings in the substantive update since 217773d, accounting for the merge of main.

The prior P1 starvation finding is fixed: Rust's min_floored and JS aggregation again let an unfloored reader clear the aggregate floor. The new quiet_catalog.rs regression exercises the requested reverse order with an empty relay copy. The pre-draft-20 group-zero concern is also resolved by removing that special case, rather than retaining its history-losing behavior.

Direction: the narrower publisher/codec fix is sound. Keeping main's aggregation and leaving the lite-05 mixed live/floored-reader case to #5085 is simpler and avoids the earlier regression. The remaining Rust/JS floor handling and pre-06 group-zero encoding are consistent; the PR description now reflects the reduced scope.

Verification: static inspection of the current 16-file PR diff, changed-area context, prior reviews and discussion. No tests executed. Head-specific CI is still queued/running, including Check and Test, so this is not a verified green build. Rechecked that the PR is open, non-draft, mergeable, and still at the reviewed head before posting.

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Replying to the Grok review of 5a1daa0a:

  1. Stale body: fixed. The review read the description from before 5a1daa0. The body now says aggregation is unchanged from main. It also says the moq-transport group-0 special case was removed rather than added, and it no longer claims a Subscription doc change. main's model and JS docs already describe None correctly for in-process use. The pin is wire behavior, documented in the lite publisher and the draft.
  2. Lite-06 unfloored joins accept a late lower group: intended, and it can't be split on that wire. lite-06's Group Start 0 is both "no floor" and "group 0". feat(net)!: carry Live apart from the subscription floor #5085's Live flag separates them on lite-07. I checked moq-mux: container::Consumer drops a group below its cursor ("skipping old group" in poll_read_finish), so a late straggler can't rewind playback.
  3. Pre-06 changelog: declining. Those drafts already define an explicit group 0 as 1, so this is an implementation fix, not a wire change. It's listed under Impact, and the crate changelog comes from the squashed commit.
  4. CI: Windows and macOS are green now. Check and Test are still queued behind the runner backlog.

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The publisher now delivers a group below SUBSCRIBE_OK's Group when the
floor allows it, so the draft and subscriber comments that called those
groups unavailable contradicted the behavior. Also collapse the JS
publisher's pin to a single branch.

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Merge summary for 8bc3e7f0.

The fix: an explicit floor is no longer replaced by the first served group at SUBSCRIBE_START, so a fresh group created below it is still delivered within max age. A pre-06 explicit group 0 is now encoded as 1, as those drafts specify. Floor aggregation is unchanged from main. The lite-05 mixed relay case moves to quest/m1/lite-live.md (#5085).

Last commit (maintainer-confirmed, no behavior change):

  • The draft no longer calls groups below SUBSCRIBE_OK Group "unavailable" while also delivering them. A subscriber does not wait for them, and a publisher still delivers one that arrives later within Subscriber Max Age.
  • Fixed the matching stale comments in model/track.rs, the Rust and JS lite subscribers, and the Rust publisher.
  • Collapsed the JS publisher's SUBSCRIBE_START pin to one branch.

Reviews: OpenAI reviewed 5a1daa0a with no findings. The commit after it changes only comments, draft text, and an equivalent JS branch. just check passes locally. Auto-merge is set on this head.

Follow-ups are already tracked: quest/m1/lite-live.md and quest/m1/subscribe-drop.md.

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Automated review of #5000 at 8bc3e7f0 (first Grok review)

This stops the lite publisher from raising the cursor to the SUBSCRIBE_START group unless the subscription is a pre-06 one with no named floor. It also makes pre-06 encode an explicit group 0 as 1 instead of folding it to absent. The scope is tight, the Rust and JS sides match, and the new late_lower_group.rs matrix (in-process, lite-05/06/07-wip, and moq-transport 14/17/22, direct and through a relay) is the right regression test. I found no blocking issues.

Non-blocking

  1. Pre-06 Some(0) now means replay from the beginning (rs/moq-net/src/lite/subscribe.rs encode_start_group, js/net/src/lite/subscribe.ts encodeStartGroup). Before this change, a caller that passed with_start(Position::group(0)) as "no constraint" got the latest group on a pre-06 wire. Now it asks the publisher to replay all retained history. On a max_age FOREVER track (catalogs, for example), that's a real change in how much data goes out. Please grep for internal group(0) / { start: { included: 0 } } callers that meant "unfloored" and confirm none hit lite-03 to 05 peers. A short line about it under the PR's Impact section would help too.
  2. Lite-06 and later never pin now, even for a truly unfloored subscriber. publisher.rs around line 2856 skips raise_start_to whenever resolves_start() is true. That means a lite-06 reader that named nothing will also receive stragglers below the first served group, inside max age, which out-of-order relay delivery can produce. That matches the draft's "0 is group 0", but it changes behavior for every existing lite-06 consumer, not only floored ones. Downstream code that assumes groups arrive in increasing order after the first one, such as moq-mux's container::Consumer, should be checked or covered by a test. Today only the publisher unit tests and the lite-05 drop case pin this down.
  3. Rust and JS read the floor from different places. Rust checks the aggregate self.track.subscription().start, while JS checks the per-subscribe bounds.startGroup. On a pre-06 relay that mixes an unfloored reader with a floored one, Rust pins (the aggregate floor is cleared) and drops the late group for the floored reader. That case is documented as moved to lite-live.md. Please confirm the JS publisher behaves the same way in that mixed case, so the two implementations don't drift silently.
  4. The tests depend on sleep ordering. late_lower_group.rs relies on 10 ms simulated sleeps so SUBSCRIBE_START lands before group 0 is written. That's fine under moq_net_sim, but if group 0 ever raced ahead, the test would still pass on the unfloored path and stop guarding the regression. Asserting that SUBSCRIBE_START was observed (for example, that start_sequence is Some(1) on the subscriber side) before write_group(&track, 0) would make it airtight.
  5. CI is still queued. Check, Test, WASM, Windows, macOS, Android, and Replay hadn't run when I reviewed. The PR body also notes the known go -> interop failures (feat(net): bound the publish serve loops with a per-loop budget #5088).

The docs and quest edits are consistent. lite-late-lower-group.md is removed, and its lite-live.md back-link and README entry are gone, with the mixed lite-05 relay case carried over to lite-live.md. The draft correction that only Group End and Frame End are offset matches the codec.

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Merged origin/main into the branch at fab055d4.

Conflicts, both mechanical:

Everything else auto-merged, including main's #5087 changes to the lite publisher and subscriber. The PR's diff against main is unchanged.

Local checks on fab055d4: just check passes, and so does just test interop --all, with every cell green, -> js included.

Review: the OpenAI review of 5a1daa0a is the latest non-Grok one. Since then, 8bc3e7f0 changed comments plus one small JS publisher edit. The JS edit drops an end-only replaceGroups that re-set an end the cursor already held, so it changes no behavior. That and this clean main merge count as trivial. Re-enabling squash auto-merge pinned to fab055d43e66b3cde19ded4213355c5e61cd6d78.

Follow-up: #5085 (the lite-05 mixed relay case) should rebase onto this once it lands.

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Update at d79f4199. CodeRabbit reviewed fab055d4, which is the non-Grok review for this head, and left two findings:

  1. SUBSCRIBE_OK Group wording (draft): fixed. The Rust relay resolves the start as min(source, first held group), so Group can come before the first stream sent. The draft, its changelog entry, and the TrackRun::start comment now say "where delivery starts".
  2. Raise the pre-06 cursor to group.sequence: declined, with a reply in the thread. The cursor matches the start SUBSCRIBE_START reports, as on main. Raising it further would drop a group the reply said is served.

d79f4199 changes only the draft text and comments. just check and just drafts check pass. Re-enabling squash auto-merge pinned to d79f41991942ecd01a57ae85ffe6fc1ecef3ba38.

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Grok review of d79f4199 (full review, first pass)

This stops SUBSCRIBE_START from raising the serve cursor when the subscriber named a floor (and on lite-06+ at all), so a fresh group created below the first served group still reaches a floored subscriber. It also stops folding an explicit pre-06 group 0 to absent. The Rust and JS changes match, and the condition (start absent and !resolves_start(version)) is the only place the pin survives, which matches the draft's new SUBSCRIBE_OK wording.

Blocking: none found.

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  1. Pre-06 wire change worth a release note. subscribe.rs w.varint_opt(start_group) and JS startGroup === undefined ? 0 : startGroup + 1 now send an explicit floor of 0 as 1 on lite-03..05. That's what those drafts specify, but a peer built before this PR that relied on the old fold sees "replay from group 0" where it used to see "latest". Through a relay that means more catch-up traffic on join, not a correctness bug. Flag it in the changelog.
  2. Lite-06+ unfloored subscribers now get late lower groups. Since nothing is pinned on lite-06+, a subscriber that omitted Group Start can receive a group below the first served one as long as it's within max age. That's intended per the draft, but consumers that assume monotonically increasing groups after SUBSCRIBE_OK (the old quest named moq-mux's container::Consumer) should be checked or noted. The new tests cover delivery but not a consumer that rejects out-of-order groups.
  3. Rust and JS read the floor from different places. Rust checks self.track.subscription().start (the track's current subscription), while JS checks the per-request bounds.startGroup. With main's absorbing fold these should agree, but a SUBSCRIBE_UPDATE that lands while the first group is held could make them diverge. A test with an update racing the first group on lite-05 would pin that down.
  4. The lite-05 mixed relay case (unfloored reader plus a floor of 0) is still dropped and has no signal. That's correctly handed to feat(net)!: carry Live apart from the subscription floor #5085 and the SUBSCRIBE_DROP quest; just noting it stays a known gap.
  5. CI is pending on this head.

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Merge prep at dd1edc46.

Test failure on d79f4199. The failing test was moq-relay::drills bursts_cross_a_cluster::impaired (subscriber connect failed: Noq(Connection("timed out"))), not @moq/net. Those JS lines are expected log noise from passing tests. Replaying its seed (MOQ_SHAPER_SEED=14126938834471621026) fails the same way on this branch and on main, and passes on #5185, the moq-noq bump that carries the handshake idle timeout from quest/m1/test-flakes-2/impaired-handshake.md. Nothing in this PR is involved.

Changes since the last review. A clean merge of origin/main, with no conflicts. #5165 also merges cleanly on top. No code changes, so CodeRabbit's review of fab055d4 (with its follow-up on d79f4199) still covers this head.

Checks. just drafts check passes. Locally on the merged tree, moq-net (1741 tests) and @moq/net (1508 tests) pass. A loaded just check hit three known or unrelated flakes:

  • bursts_cross_a_cluster::impaired: fixed by deps: bump moq-noq stack to 2.0.4 #5185.
  • ts_passthrough_crosses_a_relay_through_a_flagged_jump: tracked in quest/m1/test-flakes-2/ts-passthrough-jump.md. Passes 20 of 20 alone.
  • moq-quic bbr_marking_versus_dropping: untouched by this PR. Passes 30 of 30 alone.

In just test interop --all, every pair passes except the cpp cells, which can't run here because uniffi-bindgen-cpp isn't installed locally.

Wire impact (release note). Grok flagged this. The description's Impact section now states it: on lite-03..05, a subscriber that names group 0 sends 1. Released publishers and relays already decode that as group 0, so they serve from the start of their cache instead of the latest group.

Grok's other notes. No changes for these:

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fix(net): backport an explicit group 0 floor on pre-06 wires (#5000)
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