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Refuses a mid-group FETCH in moq-transcode. This is the first step of quest/m0/wildcard/transcode-group-start.md, which stays open.

Problem

When a FETCH for a group partway through missed the rung's cache, the rung's fetch handler served the wrong frames. It transcoded the whole source group and accepted it at the requested index, so the reader got frame 0 labeled as frame M. The tail of a fresh encode also isn't valid after a head that another encode produced.

Approach

  • rung.rs: a fetch with frame_start != 0 is rejected with NotFound before any source fetch. Cache hits never reach the handler, so a mid-group fetch of a group the live encoder still holds keeps serving.
  • Tests: a mid-group fetch is refused while the whole group still serves, and two instances fed one source publish groups that mirror the source's sequences and timestamps.
  • Quest: a "Done in" note that the refusal landed, and that the two-instance catalog check is dropped until feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817 decides whether the catalog must be deterministic.

Impact

  • Public API: none.
  • Wire: none.
  • Behavior: a mid-group FETCH that misses a rung's cache is refused with NotFound instead of served with mislabeled frames.

Decisions (maintainer, 2026-10-05)

  • Trim to the code fix. Earlier heads also re-planned the quest around per-worker epochs, touching transcode-group-start, the wildcard, broadcast-epoch, and processor READMEs. That re-plan is reverted. feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817 proposes that a bare path never resumes across routes. That rule would make per-worker epochs unnecessary, so the quest plan is decided with feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817.
  • The two-instance test no longer asserts that catalogs are equal. Whether the catalog must be deterministic is part of that open plan.
  • Earlier on this branch, a track::Info::whole_groups serving policy in moq-net was added and then reverted. It never fires on the relay's own mid-group splice (Recover::poll_serving).

Iteration (2026-10-05)

  • Check failed on cargo fmt --check for the two-instance test's expected-groups closure; reformatted.
  • Merged latest main.
  • Both CodeRabbit threads were on the reverted re-plan or already fixed; replied on each.
  • The quest reference above uses the moved m0 path. The branch keeps its quest/m1/ name because renaming it would close this PR.

Follow-ups

  • Settle the transcode quest's plan with feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817: either keep the bare derived path, where an unepoched path cold-starts on the rendezvous winner, or mint per-worker epochs.
  • Align moq.pro's wildcard transcode plan with whichever rule wins.

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The rung's fetch handler transcoded the whole source group into a group
accepted at the requested frame index, so a mid-group FETCH got frame 0
labeled as frame M. A tail from this encoder cannot continue a head another
instance produced anyway, so refuse it with NotFound.

Pin two instances fed one source publishing the same catalog and groups,
and record in the quest why the subscription half needs moq-net.

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Outcome: the quest is blocked, and this PR is partial.

Landed: a mid-group FETCH is refused (a regression test fails without the fix), and a test checks that two instances fed one source publish the same broadcast.

Blocked: a relay can't be kept from splicing two encoders mid-group from inside moq-transcode. resume.rs continues the in-flight group from the new route's cached group N at frame M. The fix needs one of these: a track property limiting route moves to group boundaries (recommended), group-boundary-only route moves, or a path per worker. The per-process rung naming (video/120p.2) is a separate determinism gap. Details are in the quest's Findings.

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kixelated and others added 2 commits October 4, 2026 21:38
A transcoder cannot resume a group deterministically, so it must never
serve one partway through. moq-net answers subscriptions and cached
fetches before the transcoder sees them, so add track::Info::whole_groups,
a local serving policy (not in TRACK_INFO): a subscription starting
mid-group skips to the next group on lite and IETF, and a mid-group fetch
is refused with NotFound, cached, uncached, or queued before accept.

moq-transcode accepts rung tracks with it, replacing the handler check,
and the quest records the maintainer's decision.

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@kixelated kixelated changed the title fix(transcode): refuse a fetch that starts mid-group feat(net): let a track serve only whole groups, and transcoders use it Oct 5, 2026
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Implemented the maintainer's 2026-10-04 decision. The fix is transcode-only, and relay resume is unchanged.

The hook is a new track::Info::whole_groups flag. It is a local serving policy and isn't sent on the wire. Rung tracks set it, so:

  • a lite or IETF subscription that starts at (N, M>0) skips group N and starts at N+1;
  • a mid-group FETCH is refused with NotFound, whether the group is cached, uncached, or the fetch was queued before accept.

Open decision, with the options in the PR body: where the hook lives. I recommend the Info field (option 1) over a Producer setter or a per-group flag. just check passes.

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kixelated and others added 3 commits October 5, 2026 12:00
Two workers at one derived name are spliced by the relay's own mid-group
resume, which no serving policy on the transcoder can refuse. Give each
worker its own epoch instead, revising the wildcard line's derived-output
layout, and justify the mid-group fetch refusal on its own terms.

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@kixelated kixelated changed the title feat(net): let a track serve only whole groups, and transcoders use it fix(transcode): refuse a fetch that starts mid-group Oct 5, 2026
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The transcode fetch path now returns NotFound when a request starts at a nonzero frame. Requests that start at frame zero continue through the existing fetch flow. Tests cover mid-group rejection, whole-group fetch success, and matching source group sequences and frame timestamps across two transcoders. The plan records these changes and defers the catalog check and remaining bare-path work.

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Mid-group fetches are refused without changing whole-group fetch behavior. No issue identified here prevents merging after normal checks.

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  • observed — rs (service) was modified; 2 changed files map to changed impact.
  • observed — quest (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.

Before / after behavior

  • observed — Modified behavior in rs/moq-transcode/src/rung.rs: The fetch-path documentation adds that a fetch starting mid-group is refused because a fresh encode’s frames cannot continue the head from that same group.
  • observed — Modified behavior in rs/moq-transcode/src/rung.rs: fetch now rejects requests whose frame_start() is nonzero with NotFound, logs the sequence and frame, and returns before source fetching or pipeline creation. Requests starting at frame zero proceed unchanged.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m0/wildcard/transcode-group-start.md: The plan adds completed behavior for mid-group FETCH rejection and matching group sequences and timestamps across two instances. It drops the two-instance catalog check pending PR #4817 and defers the remaining work to the bare-path rule.
  • observed — Modified behavior in rs/moq-transcode/src/lib.rs: Added a test in which a rung fetch starting at frame 2 of group 7 must be refused with NotFound; a whole-group fetch for group 7 must still succeed and produce frames.
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Reviewed commit 26ba7e3. No actionable findings.

The guard rejects a nonzero frame start before fetching the source or accepting an output group, preventing a fresh encode from being written at the requested offset. Whole-group fetches remain supported, and rejecting a request leaves later fetches able to proceed. The new regression test covers both behaviors.

Validation: just rs test -p moq-transcode passed all 55 tests; quest check passed (474 documents). PR CI is green.

Public API and wire impact: none. This is a scoped cache-miss FETCH fix; cached-group serving and relay route splicing remain unchanged. The updated quest explicitly retains per-worker epochs as unfinished work, so this PR does not establish that independent transcoders are interchangeable.

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kixelated and others added 2 commits October 5, 2026 12:25
A worker finishes its output when its source epoch ends or is replaced, and
every demand capability, external processors included, mints an epoch per
worker. Describe the derived-output layout generically; moq.pro mounts it.

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No actionable findings in the current seven-file PR diff. The code and tests are unchanged from 26ba7e3; the meaningful update is the epoch/lifecycle plan.

Direction: sound as a scoped cache-miss FETCH fix. rs/moq-transcode/src/rung.rs:490–500 refuses a nonzero frame start before fetching or accepting, preventing mislabeled frames; rs/moq-transcode/src/lib.rs:1319–1338 exercises refusal followed by a whole-group fetch. quest/m1/transcode-group-start.md:31–46 correctly separates worker identity from source identity and makes source replacement end the old output. Keep the implementation and takeover tests listed at lines 53–58 as prerequisites for the broader wildcard guarantee: this PR does not prevent relay splicing by itself.

Verification limits: static review of the full diff and relevant fetch/recovery context; no local tests run. Check and Platform are queued for this exact head. The earlier review's passing tests/CI refer to 26ba7e3, not this head. The two-instance test verifies catalogs/sequences/timestamps, not encoded-byte equivalence. No public API or wire change in this patch.

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Automated review: head a7a83113

The code change is small and correct. fetch in rs/moq-transcode/src/rung.rs:490 now rejects a frame_start != 0 request with NotFound before it touches the source. Before, it encoded the whole group and accepted it at the requested index. Cache hits never reach this handler, so a mid-group fetch of a group the live encoder still holds keeps serving. The refusal only applies to fresh encodes, which is exactly where the old behavior mislabeled frames. I checked the quest claims against the code. The moq.pro layout matches quest/m2/wildcard/transcode.md:65-66 in moq.pro, the pinning rule matches quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/origin.md:24, and doc/bin/cli.md:240 and doc/bin/obs.md:45 do give the transcode.hang path the follow-ups list.

Blocking

None.

Non-blocking

  1. The splice claim is half right. The quest (quest/m1/transcode-group-start.md:20-26) and the PR body say the relay subscribes to the new copy from frame 0, splices with start_at(M), and that "no moq-transcode policy can refuse" it. In Recover::poll_serving (rs/moq-net/src/model/resume.rs:876-891), that's only the subscription path. When the new copy's subscription hasn't delivered group N yet, the relay calls fetch_group(N, with_frame_start(M)) at :890, and this PR's refusal now catches that. The relay gets NotFound, and once the old copy has failed, the group ends with that error instead of being spliced. Suggest rewording to "the subscription half of the resume splices, which no transcoder policy can refuse", and noting in the "Done in" line that this PR closes the fetch half.
  2. The test pins a property the plan just dropped. two_instances_publish_the_same_broadcast asserts that the two instances publish identical catalogs (rs/moq-transcode/src/lib.rs:1388). The quest now lists a deterministic catalog as a non-goal (line 11), and the decisions say "drop". Once per-worker epochs land, a catalog difference between workers is allowed, but this assertion would fail anyway. Suggest keeping the group sequence and timestamp assertions, which rendition switching still depends on (rung.rs module docs), and dropping the catalog equality check.
  3. The quest doesn't say what happens after a double claim. Epochs order by the publisher's clock (quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/README.md:26), and killing the newest epoch falls back to a still-live older one (:72). After a double claim, viewers on the older worker take one epoch switch, meaning a new broadcast and a catalog reload, when the newer announcement arrives. Nothing in the plan says the older worker stops, so it keeps encoding for as long as anything still pins its epoch. Suggest stating the rule, for example that a worker finishes once its output goes unused, and adding a test for it to the "Left" list.

CI: Quest passes. Check, Test, macOS and Windows are still pending on this head.

Verdict: MERGE (once CI is green)

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Proposal on moq#4817: never stitch unepoched paths.

If that lands, per-worker epochs aren't needed for transcode. The splice this PR guards against comes from resuming a bare path on a different worker mid-group. Under the proposed rule, an unepoched path is never resumed across routes: the front resets, and the subscriber cold-starts on whichever worker the claim's rendezvous hash picks.

So transcode output can stay at the bare .transcode/<pid>/<source>, served through the wildcard claim. That means no @<worker>, no catalog determinism, and no group-start rule. It also removes the question this plan leaves open: how demand reaches a worker before any @w exists. A bare SUBSCRIBE reaches the claim exactly as today.

Suggest re-planning this PR around that rule, or closing it in favour of a small quest change to the wildcard line.

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- Line 44: Update the epoch requirement in the worker naming documentation:
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kixelated and others added 2 commits October 5, 2026 14:57
Revert the per-worker epoch re-plan of the transcode, wildcard,
broadcast-epoch, and processor quests so it is decided with #4817, and
drop the catalog-equality assertion from the two-instance test.

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Automated follow-up review: head b91c6901

This is a re-review after the push since a7a83113. Two origin/main merges brought nothing new into the PR's files. The real change is b91c6901, which trims the PR back to the fetch fix. It reverts the per-worker epoch re-plan across the four quest READMEs, leaving that plan to be decided with #4817. It also drops the catalog-equality assertion from the two-instance test. The PR's diff against main is now rung.rs's refusal (unchanged), the two tests, and one "Done in" line in quest/m0/wildcard/transcode-group-start.md.

Earlier findings

  1. Splice wording (NB 1): resolved by removal. The PR no longer adds the claim that the relay's resume can't be refused. Main's goal still says interchangeable output keeps a relay from splicing mid-group, but Recover::poll_serving's subscription half splices on its own. That's main's text, and the PR body defers it to feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817, so it isn't this PR's problem.
  2. Catalog-equality assertion (NB 2): fixed. two_instances_mirror_source_groups (rs/moq-transcode/src/lib.rs:1342) now checks only that each instance's groups match the source's sequences and timestamps (assert_eq!(groups, expected), :1387). That's the property rendition switching depends on. The explicit collect::<Vec<_>>() keeps the inner type inferred correctly now that it no longer compares against first.1.
  3. What happens after a double claim (NB 3): moot. The per-worker epoch plan it was about has been reverted.

Non-blocking

  1. The quest's test list still asks for catalog equality. transcode-group-start.md:20-21 lists "two instances fed the same source that publish the same catalog and group sequences", and the goal still says the catalog "derives only from the input and config". The test now pins only the group half, and the PR body says catalog determinism is open. Suggest the new "Done in" line (:22) also say that the catalog check was dropped until feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817 decides, so the next reader doesn't think it's covered.

Blocking

None. The code is the same refusal I reviewed before. A mid-group fetch that misses the cache is rejected with NotFound before any source fetch, and the whole group still serves.

CI: Check, Test, Quest, macOS and Windows are all pending on this head.

Verdict: MERGE (once CI is green)

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Reviewed commit: af2601d

No new actionable findings. Compared with the last attributed review at a7a8311, excluding imported main changes.

Direction: the narrower cache-miss FETCH fix is sound. The unchanged guard in rs/moq-transcode/src/rung.rs:490–500 rejects a nonzero frame start before fetching the source or accepting output; rs/moq-transcode/src/lib.rs:1319–1333 still tests refusal followed by a successful whole-group fetch. The revised two-instance test at :1342–1395 preserves source sequence/timestamp checks without imposing catalog equality, independently confirming the fix for the existing finding.

quest/m0/wildcard/transcode-group-start.md:22–26 now explicitly records that catalog determinism and the broader policy await #4817. The prior per-worker epoch plan was removed. This patch does not establish byte compatibility between workers or prevent the subscription-path splice in rs/moq-net/src/model/resume.rs:877–878.

Verification limits: static review of the current three-file diff and surrounding fetch/recovery code; no local tests run. Check and Platform were queued for this exact head, so the earlier formatting failure is not yet verified fixed by CI. No public API or wire change.

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Merge summary for head af2601dba3fce9ddf76311ef7248111d4b25338f.

  • Change: rung.rs refuses a cache-miss FETCH with frame_start != 0 (NotFound) instead of serving a fresh encode's frame 0 labeled as frame M. Tests cover the refusal plus a whole-group fetch, and two instances mirroring source sequences and timestamps.
  • Decisions (maintainer, 2026-10-05): trimmed to the code fix; the per-worker epoch re-plan and catalog-equality check are deferred to feat(net)!: negotiate publisher epochs as metadata #4817. The quest quest/m0/wildcard/transcode-group-start.md stays open.
  • Review: the automated OpenAI review on this head has no findings; both CodeRabbit threads were answered, withdrawn, and resolved.
  • CI: Check, Test, Quest, Windows, and macOS pass on this head.
  • Public API and wire: none.

Follow-ups: settle the transcode quest plan with #4817 (bare derived path vs per-worker epochs), then align moq.pro's wildcard transcode plan.

Enqueuing in the merge queue.

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Take main's moq-sh-deploy (#4896 already marks the manual deploy done).
Re-verify the loose ends against what landed since 2026-10-05: #4922 shared
fronts, the archive line (#4034), #4812, and the line branches.

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fix(transcode): refuse a fetch that starts mid-group (backport #4812)
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Conflicts are release backports whose originals are already on main
(#4812, #4658, #5086, #5081, #5019, #5025); resolved to main's side.
doc/bin/rtmp.md keeps main's text, since #5033 dropped the #4735
internal-limits paragraph the backport carried. Ports
requester_reset_cancels_subscriptions, which only the #4658 backport
carried, into main's publisher test harness.

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shermerL pushed a commit to shermerL/moq that referenced this pull request Oct 10, 2026
Drops the quest/ file change, since release does not carry that quest.

(cherry picked from commit 4ae871c)
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