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Plans follow-ups from #4691 (FETCH abandonment).

  • m1/demand-everywhere [M]: on dev, requests and producers at every level watch subscribers through demand() alone. The bindings then expose it through FFI shape.
  • m1/ietf-fetch-abandonment [S]: the Rust moq-transport subscriber cancels a group FETCH once its last reader leaves, before and after FETCH_OK. JS never issues IETF FETCH.

Decisions

#4691 group::Request::poll_unused

Cancel after the answer

  • ✅ Also cancel after the answer, the same as SUBSCRIBE (confirmed: Rust SUBSCRIBE FINs once idle, and JS cancels an answered FETCH)

F: IETF FETCH

  • ✅ m1, after fetch-abandonment
  • m0
  • Drop it

G: bindings

  • ✅ Fold into H's Demand shape, then the FFI shape line
  • Standalone m1 quest now
  • m2 until a binding serves fetches

H scope

  • Requests only
  • ✅ Everything under Demand
  • Drop H

H milestone

  • ✅ m1, ahead of FFI shape
  • m2

H type

  • ✅ One type per level, same methods
  • One generic Demand
  • Leave it to the implementer

Public API: none (planning only). Wire: none.

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Adds two quests to the M1 list. One documents a proposal to unify demand handles across track, group, and broadcast subscriber-serving handles. The other documents a proposal to cancel a Rust group FETCH when its last reader leaves, including draft-specific cancellation mechanisms and a planned test. These changes add quest documentation; they do not implement the proposed behavior.

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Title check ✅ Passed The title clearly identifies the two planned changes: Demand coverage and IETF FETCH abandonment. It is concise and accurately reflects the planning-only changeset.
Description check ✅ Passed The description is directly related to the changeset. It explains both quest documents, their scope, milestone, decisions, and the absence of public API and wire changes.
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Reviewed commit: 59c0862

  • [P3] Reuse the existing FETCH_CANCEL codec. quest/m1/ietf-fetch-abandonment.md:17–18 incorrectly says Rust has no encoding. ietf::FetchCancel already implements both encoding and decoding in rs/moq-net/src/ietf/fetch.rs:404–418, and the legacy adapter already routes it. The missing part is emitting it on abandonment. Correct that fact and reuse the codec for drafts 14–16; their virtual stream reset is a no-op.

Direction looks sound: consolidate the demand surface on dev, preserve atomic coalescing/withdrawal, and keep cancellation effective after acceptance. The version-specific cancellation split agrees with draft 16 §9.18 and draft 19 §5.2. No other actionable defects found in these plans.

Verification: static review of all three changed documents and the relevant model, subscriber, adapter, codec and FFI code. No runtime tests or local gates ran; Rust/Nix/just/quest tooling is unavailable here, and this commit's Check workflow is queued. This PR itself changes no API or wire behavior.

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ITERATE (reviewed 59c086288486b417e810b34eedce70a34ca057d1)

Plans Demand-everywhere (dev API cleanup) and IETF group-FETCH abandonment; facts mostly match main/dev, but two claims would mislead implementers.

Blocking

  1. ietf-fetch-abandonment.md: “Rust has no FETCH_CANCEL encoding” is false.
    ietf::FetchCancel already lives in rs/moq-net/src/ietf/fetch.rs (Message ID 0x17, full encode_msg / decode_msg), and rs/moq-net/src/ietf/adapter.rs routes FetchCancel::ID to CloseStream. What is true: run_group_fetch never sends it (subscriber.rs has no FetchCancel call site); cancel today is subscription-end only. JS’s FetchCancel encode/decode throw (“Removed in d17”), which is a different statement.
    Fix: something like “Rust already encodes FetchCancel (0x17); the IETF subscriber never sends it for a group FETCH. Confirm per negotiated draft whether cancel is FETCH_CANCEL or stream reset (JS marks FETCH_CANCEL removed in d17).” That matches the Plan’s draft check and the Goal’s STOP_SENDING / FETCH_CANCEL wording.

  2. demand-everywhere.md: “fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 adds group::Request::poll_unused on main” is false.
    On origin/main, impl group::Request in rs/moq-net/src/model/track.rs has sequence / accept / reject and no poll_unused. That method exists only on fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 (423a6296…), which is still open + draft.
    Fix: “fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 (open/draft) adds group::Request::poll_unused” (or “once fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 merges”). The IETF quest’s “Reuse poll_unused from fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691, or demand() if Demand everywhere lands first” is already right.

Non-blocking

  • CI: Check / Quest / Test still queued at review time; no failure yet.
  • run_group_fetch fact check (good): On main it opens FETCH, waits for response / slot Done / request-stream close, never watches demand; idle cancel is only via the subscribe path’s poll_unused → cancel_subscribe. JS ConsumeBroadcast rejects fetchGroup on moq-transport. track::Demand / broadcast::Demand / MoqTrackDemand with no demand on MoqGroupRequest / MoqTrackRequest match.
  • “kept group and broadcast used/unused”: Slightly loose for broadcast — broadcast::Producer is already demand()-only; used/unused sit on broadcast::Demand. Group still has Producer used/unused and no group::Demand. Worth one clarifying clause so the “everything under Demand” delta is obvious.
  • Ordering: IETF FETCH abandonment can ship against fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691’s poll_unused without waiting for Demand everywhere; keep that explicit so the Related “first new consumer of group request demand” line does not imply a hard Demand-everywhere dependency.

No alternative approach worth exploring — Demand-per-level plus IETF cancel-after-answer matching SUBSCRIBE/lite is the right shape.

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MERGE (re-review after push; head f9f0e7bb932606127465904383f7a2d74656ebb1)

Address-review commit 85574ee7 plus merge of main. Prior blockers are cleared.

Prior findings

  1. FETCH_CANCEL encoding — fixed. Plan now says Rust already encodes/decodes ietf::FetchCancel (0x17) and the adapter routes it, but run_group_fetch never sends it; send on drafts 14–16 and reset later. Matches fetch.rs / adapter.rs and JS’s “Removed in d17”.
  2. #4691 on main — fixed across the push. Address-review said “still open”; merge of main past-tensed it to “fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 added group::Request::poll_unused”, which matches merged fix(net): cancel an abandoned lite FETCH upstream, before or after the answer #4691 on main (impl group::Request in track.rs).

Still good / non-blocking

  • Broadcast clarification and “can ship on poll_unused without waiting for Demand everywhere” both landed.
  • run_group_fetch still never watches demand; cancel today is still subscription-end only.
  • CI: Quest passed; Check / Test still pending at review time.

No new blocking issues.

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Reviewed commit: f9f0e7b

No new actionable findings. The earlier P3 is fixed in ietf-fetch-abandonment.md:17–27: reuse the existing FetchCancel codec for drafts 14–16; the missing work is emission on abandonment. The goal retains STOP_SENDING plus request-stream reset for later drafts, consistent with the draft-17 cancellation rules.

Demand everywhere:19–23 now distinguishes broadcast producer APIs from Demand methods. The #4691 statement is accurate after its confirmed merge at 4778159, which this head includes. Its independent-shipping clarification avoids making IETF cancellation wait for the broader API cleanup.

Direction remains sound: reuse existing cancellation machinery, retain atomic demand semantics, and consolidate the breaking Demand surface on dev. This planning PR itself changes no API or wire behavior.

Verification: separated the two-document review fix and merge-resolution wording from seven main commits brought in by the base merge. Rechecked the plans against the codec, adapter, subscriber and model APIs plus the protocol boundary. Static review only; Rust/Nix/just/quest are unavailable, so no local gates, runtime tests or interop ran. Exact-head Check is still running.

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Merging. Plans demand-everywhere (dev: every demand surface under a per-level Demand) and ietf-fetch-abandonment (IETF subscriber cancels a group FETCH once demand drops: FETCH_CANCEL on drafts 14-16, stream reset later). Decisions were settled in the planning session; review fixes (existing FetchCancel codec, #4691 status, broadcast clarification, independent shipping) are in. Codex and CI clean on the head.

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- Around line 6-7: Update the cancellation wording in the FETCH abandonment
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17, which requires STOP_SENDING on the bidirectional FETCH request stream; state
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fetching upstream, it cancels that FETCH (STOP_SENDING plus a reset of the
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🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

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git diff --unified=8 477815956e394ac702ce02b7dd43c384b4d2fddb f9f0e7bb932606127465904383f7a2d74656ebb1 -- quest/m1/README.md quest/m1/demand-everywhere.md quest/m1/ietf-fetch-abandonment.md
sed -n '1,80p' quest/m1/ietf-fetch-abandonment.md
rg -n 'FetchCancel|FETCH_CANCEL|run_group_fetch|fetchGroup' rs/moq-net/src/ietf rs/moq-net/src/ietf/fetch.rs js

Repository: moq-dev/moq

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IETF MoQ Transport drafts 14 15 16 17 FETCH_CANCEL STOP_SENDING request stream data stream cancellation requirements

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### FETCH cancellation across drafts 14–17

**The cancellation mechanism changes in draft 17.** Drafts **14, 15, and 16** use the `FETCH_CANCEL` control message; draft **17** instead uses QUIC stream cancellation for FETCH.

| Draft | Request cancellation | Data-stream cancellation | Publisher behavior |
|---|---|---|---|
| **14** | Subscriber **MUST send `FETCH_CANCEL`** to cancel; it MAY also send `STOP_SENDING` on an already-open FETCH data stream. | Optional `STOP_SENDING` alongside `FETCH_CANCEL`. | May discard FETCH state on `FETCH_CANCEL`; **MUST reset open streams** associated with the FETCH. ([datatracker.ietf.org](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/14/)) |
| **15** | Same: **`FETCH_CANCEL` is required**; `STOP_SENDING` on the data stream is optional. | Optional. | May discard state on `FETCH_CANCEL`; **MUST reset open streams** associated with FETCH. ([datatracker.ietf.org](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/15/)) |
| **16** | Same: **`FETCH_CANCEL` is required**; `STOP_SENDING` on the data stream is optional. | Optional. | May discard state on `FETCH_CANCEL`; **MUST reset open streams** associated with FETCH. ([datatracker.ietf.org](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/16/?utm_source=openai)) |
| **17** | The request is on a bidirectional stream; to cancel, the subscriber **MUST send `STOP_SENDING` on that request stream**. `FETCH_CANCEL` is absent. | `STOP_SENDING` on the data stream is optional if it is already open. | On receiving `STOP_SENDING`, the publisher can discard FETCH state and **MUST reset both the request stream and associated data stream**. ([datatracker.ietf.org](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/17/)) |

**Practical takeaway:** Don’t apply draft-17 cancellation rules to implementations using drafts 14–16: those revisions require the `FETCH_CANCEL` message, while draft 17 makes `STOP_SENDING` on the bidirectional request stream the required cancellation signal. This comparison is limited to the cited revisions; the drafts are evolving specifications, not final RFC requirements.

Citations:

- 1: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/14/
- 2: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/15/
- 3: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/16/?utm_source=openai
- 4: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-moq-transport/17/

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printf '%s\n' '--- Rust FetchCancel codec ---'
sed -n '380,435p' rs/moq-net/src/ietf/fetch.rs
printf '%s\n' '--- Rust adapter FetchCancel dispatch ---'
sed -n '970,1020p' rs/moq-net/src/ietf/adapter.rs
printf '%s\n' '--- Rust run_group_fetch ---'
sed -n '2980,3095p' rs/moq-net/src/ietf/subscriber.rs
printf '%s\n' '--- Rust group-fetch call and cancellation-related references ---'
sed -n '1845,1905p' rs/moq-net/src/ietf/subscriber.rs
sed -n '7675,7765p' rs/moq-net/src/ietf/subscriber.rs
printf '%s\n' '--- JS IETF subscriber fetchGroup ---'
sed -n '1095,1140p' js/net/src/ietf/subscriber.ts
printf '%s\n' '--- JS IETF control version maps ---'
sed -n '1,145p' js/net/src/ietf/control.ts
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Specify the cancellation stream for each draft.

Drafts 14–16 require FETCH_CANCEL; STOP_SENDING on an open FETCH data stream is optional. Draft 17 requires STOP_SENDING on the bidirectional FETCH request stream; stopping the data stream is optional. The current wording does not identify this target and could leave FETCH state active if it stops only the data stream.

Suggested wording
-fetching upstream, it cancels that FETCH (STOP_SENDING plus a reset of the
-request stream, or FETCH_CANCEL on drafts that define it), before and after
+fetching upstream, it cancels that FETCH with FETCH_CANCEL on drafts 14 to 16,
+or with STOP_SENDING on the bidirectional FETCH request stream on draft 17.
+STOP_SENDING on an open FETCH data stream is optional, before and after
 FETCH_OK, the same as an idle SUBSCRIBE and the lite FETCH after #4691.
-Send the existing `FetchCancel` on the drafts that define it (14 to 16) and reset the request stream on later drafts, which removed FETCH_CANCEL.
+Send the existing `FetchCancel` on drafts 14 to 16. On draft 17, send
+`STOP_SENDING` on the bidirectional FETCH request stream. `STOP_SENDING` on
+the FETCH data stream is optional.
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Review comment at @quest/m1/ietf-fetch-abandonment.md around lines 6 - 7:
Update the cancellation wording in the FETCH abandonment description to
distinguish drafts 14–16, which require FETCH_CANCEL, from draft 17, which
requires STOP_SENDING on the bidirectional FETCH request stream; state that
stopping the FETCH data stream is optional. Apply the same draft-specific
behavior wherever the diff describes sending FetchCancel or resetting the
request stream.

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