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Adds two m0 quests from a transcode-pool report: a relay front nobody reads ends after the linger, so a drained claim stops serving paths it once served, and a lite-05+ subscribe no longer flaps the publisher's demand between TRACK and SUBSCRIBE. Narrows route-wakes' "a serving front follows the best route" to the routes moq-dev#4942 lets a front resume across. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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WalkthroughThe M0 plans add requirements for stable TRACK demand, idle-front cleanup, upstream position regression, and Claim-served epochs. New design documents describe proposed behavior and verification for these requirements. The M1 plans update route-wake rules and move filtered-front cleanup to the Idle fronts quest. The changes are plans and proposals, not implementation changes. Priority: ⬇️ Low Merge Risk: 🔵 Low · up to This change only adds design documents, so it has no direct runtime impact. A few plan clarifications are still open and should be settled before the plans are implemented. 🚥 Pre-merge checks | ✅ 5✅ Passed checks (5 passed)
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48-50: 🩺 Stability & Availability | 🔵 Trivial | 🏗️ Heavy liftSpecify shared-source ownership in the proposal.
The proposal already requires session source cleanup. It does not state that cleanup must wait until no other front uses the path, or how it preserves in-flight tracks. Add that coordination to the implementation requirement and test criteria. This documentation-only PR does not introduce a current implementation defect.
Suggested clarification
-- When a front ends, the session drops the placeholder source it served, so - per-path state under a claim goes with the front instead of piling up until - the claim leaves. +- When a front ends, the session releases its placeholder source only when no + other front uses that path. Cleanup must preserve shared sources and + in-flight tracks, so per-path state under a claim goes with the last front + instead of piling up until the claim leaves.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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- Around line 55-56: Update the unread-front description near the Idle fronts
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IDLE_LINGER, all tracks are forgotten, and no consumer holds its broadcast.
Clarify that a front waiting for coverage stays.
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Define “unread” by the idle-front predicate.
Without this definition, an implementation can end a front when its tracks are forgotten even though a consumer still holds its broadcast. State the complete idle condition here.
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- A serving front follows the best route among those it may resume across
(decided 2026-10-04, replacing Stay; narrowed 2026-10-07 after #4942):
routes with its epoch, or none for a front resolved without one, which stays
- on its route. An unread front ends instead of moving
- ([Idle fronts](/quest/m0/idle-fronts.md)). A join or re-price must rehash
+ on its route. An unread front ends instead of moving only after
+ `IDLE_LINGER`, when all its tracks are forgotten and no consumer holds its
+ broadcast; a front waiting for coverage stays
+ ([Idle fronts](/quest/m0/idle-fronts.md)). A join or re-price must rehash
every epoch front below the prefix, since rendezvous moves exactly the paths
the changed route now wins; only those fronts re-select. A leave wakes only
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| ([Idle fronts](/quest/m0/idle-fronts.md)). A join or re-price must rehash | |
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| `IDLE_LINGER`, when all its tracks are forgotten and no consumer holds its | |
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| ([Idle fronts](/quest/m0/idle-fronts.md)). A join or re-price must rehash |
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Review comment at @quest/m1/route-wakes.md around lines 55 - 56:
Update the unread-front description near the Idle fronts reference to define
idleness using the complete predicate: the front has waited IDLE_LINGER, all
tracks are forgotten, and no consumer holds its broadcast. Clarify that a front
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A claim's answer names the instance that served it (lite-07 TRACK_INFO), so an unread path re-resolves at once, a restarted output is never spliced, and a per-output epoch costs no first-view cut. A relay copy that sees upstream's largest group go backwards ends instead of serving the old instance's cache. TRACK stream demand ranks ahead of idle fronts. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md (1)
53-56: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winForce the FIN-before-SUBSCRIBE ordering in the relay test.
The current criteria do not require independent streams to deliver
TRACK FINbefore the relay registersSUBSCRIBE. A relay that drops demand in that race can therefore pass when the test schedule registersSUBSCRIBEfirst. Require the test to force this ordering and assert that nounusededge occurs before the firstSUBSCRIBEresponse.Suggested fix
-Verification: a `moq-net` integration test on the simulated network (10 ms -latency) asserting exactly one `used` edge and no `unused` while the reader -stays subscribed, on lite-05, 06, and 07, direct and through one relay. +Verification: a `moq-net` integration test on the simulated network (10 ms +latency) that delivers `TRACK FIN` before the `SUBSCRIBE` is registered on +independent streams, asserting no `unused` edge before the first `SUBSCRIBE` +response, then exactly one `used` edge and no `unused` while the reader stays +subscribed, on lite-05, 06, and 07, direct and through one relay.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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- Line 36: Update the claim route’s unread-front join flow in claim-epochs so
the front is invalidated when its served output closes, before checking whether
the request can join it. This must force fresh resolution and a TRACK_INFO
exchange before the request joins the new front.
Review comments at @quest/m0/largest-regression.md:
- Around line 23-24: Update the largest-regression behavior described here so a
lower largest value from a lagging same-epoch standby route preserves the valid
resume rather than ending the copy; end the copy only when the relay can
distinguish a new publisher instance. Add a test covering a standby route behind
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- Around line 53-56: Update the verification criteria around the moq-net
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relay registers SUBSCRIBE. Assert that no unused edge occurs before the first
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick winScope the error to returning readers.
The copy can close a front that still has a request parked on it.
claim-epochs.mdrequires that unread-front joiner to re-resolve onto a fresh front without an error. This requirement says “readers re-request” without excluding that joiner. The later “returning reader” wording is not enough because it does not define the scope of the earlier statement.Suggested fix
-copy ends with an error, its source closes so the front ends, and readers -re-request. +copy ends with an error, its source closes so the front ends, and returning +readers re-request with an error. A request parked on an unread front +re-resolves onto a fresh front without an error.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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53-56: 🩺 Stability & Availability | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winThe current quest explicitly requires coverage of the TRACK-FIN-before-SUBSCRIBE ordering, but its verification text only requires aggregate
used/unusededge counts. It does not require the test to control or assert that ordering. The proposed test can therefore pass without exercising the named regression.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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53-56: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winRequire a subscription-cap boundary assertion.
The current verification checks that one held TRACK stream creates one
usededge and nounusededge. It does not prove that held TRACK streams consume subscription-cap slots or that the session refuses a stream when the cap is full. Add a boundary test that fills the per-session subscription cap with held TRACK streams and asserts refusal of the next stream.This is separate from the FIN-before-SUBSCRIBE ordering test. The ordering test checks lifecycle sequencing. The boundary test checks slot accounting and enforcement.
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54-64: 🎯 Functional Correctness | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winDocument the terminal withdrawal exception.
The last-consumer trigger applies while the route remains active. Terminal route withdrawal drops
SourceGuardimmediately, even when consumers are still in flight. Those consumers then drain independently under the broadcast contract. Without this exception, an implementation can wait for the last consumer and delay source withdrawal.Suggested fix
- The session drops a placeholder source once it has no consumers left, so - per-path state under a claim goes with its fronts instead of piling up until - the claim leaves. The route's served cache hands one source to every front - for the path (a plain front and a peer's filtered front can share it), so - the trigger is the source losing its last consumer, not one front ending. - The session keeps that state in more than one place; all of it goes. + While a route remains active, the session drops a placeholder source once it + has no consumers left, so per-path state under a claim goes with its fronts + instead of piling up until the claim leaves. The route's served cache hands + one source to every front for the path (a plain front and a peer's filtered + front can share it), so the trigger is the source losing its last consumer, + not one front ending. On terminal route withdrawal or session teardown, the + source closes immediately; in-flight consumers drain independently. The + session keeps that state in more than one place; all of it goes.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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- Around line 5-8: Update the wording around set_live to specify that returning
readers re-request with an error, while a request parked on an unread front
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- Around line 54-64: Clarify the source cleanup lifecycle in the session’s
placeholder-source description: last-consumer cleanup applies while a route
remains active, but terminal route withdrawal or session teardown closes the
source immediately, with in-flight consumers draining independently. Preserve
the existing explanation of shared sources and cleanup across all session state.
Review comments at @quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md:
- Around line 53-56: Update the quest verification requirements to explicitly
exercise and assert TRACK-FIN arriving before SUBSCRIBE, in addition to checking
the `used` and `unused` edges. Apply this ordering coverage to the `moq-net`
integration test on lite-05, lite-06, and lite-07, both directly and through one
relay, and to the JavaScript counterpart.
- Around line 53-56: Extend the verification plan for TRACK subscription demand
with a separate boundary test: hold TRACK streams until the per-session
subscription cap is full, then assert the next stream is refused. Cover this in
the moq-net integration test and its JavaScript counterpart, independently of
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[P2] Specify how a held TRACK hands its subscription-cap slot to SUBSCRIBE. quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md:33–36 keeps TRACK held until the SUBSCRIBE response, while :43–46 charges held TRACK streams against the same per-session subscription cap. If that cap is filled by legitimate TRACKs (the boundary case requested at :57–59), each subsequent SUBSCRIBE needs another slot and is refused before the TRACK can release its slot. Even sequential clients cannot reach the nominal cap without this overlap. Define transfer/coalescing of the paired request's reservation, or another bounded admission rule that permits the handoff. Extend the cap test to turn the admitted TRACKs into live SUBSCRIBEs without an unused edge, not merely assert that one extra TRACK is refused.
Direction: the idle-front cleanup, source-consumer lifetime and first-response hold are well motivated; make this admission boundary explicit before implementation. The prior premature-FIN and shared-placeholder findings are addressed in the revised plan. Also reconcile its supersede wording with #5012's new sticky-subscription plan when integrating.
Verification: static nine-file plan/diff, referenced request-cap contract, current TRACK query lifecycle and prior discussions. This is a planning finding, not an observed runtime failure. No builds, tests or interop executed.
Restart (moq-dev#5012) makes a request join a front only while its route still wins, which fixes the drained-claim routing half. idle-fronts keeps the per-path state reclamation, claim-epochs drops the unread-front re-resolve, route-wakes follows Restart's sticky fronts, and largest-regression notes the relay-chain splice path. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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The Restart re-scope is substantive and consistent: idle-fronts now owns reclamation, claim-epochs owns instance identity, and route-wakes preserves existing subscribers. The previous supersede-wording concern is addressed.
Still open: the [P2] TRACK-to-SUBSCRIBE admission issue from #5010 (review). quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md is unchanged: lines 33–36 hold TRACK until the first SUBSCRIBE response, while lines 43–46 charge it against the subscription cap. At a full cap, the paired SUBSCRIBE cannot obtain a slot to produce that response. Define reservation transfer/coalescing or another bounded handoff, and make the lines 57–59 boundary test convert admitted TRACKs into live subscriptions. No duplicate inline finding.
Direction: the revised split is sensible; retaining the same per-request reservation through the handoff is the simplest direction to examine. I found no additional actionable issue in the new re-scope.
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Maintainer decision 2026-10-08: a Restart (or END then START) drops every downstream copy, relays included, and only an identical epoch resumes. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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[P2] Preserve the relay-chain guard until Restart covers per-path winner changes. quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/claim-epochs.md:36–40 and quest/m0/largest-regression.md:23–27 now assume every route change invalidates downstream copies. However, origin.rs:3362–3376 selects announcement winners using the prefix, while request routing hashes the requested path (601–624, 3462–3466). With two equal-cost workers claiming one prefix, A can win the prefix announcement while B serves path P. Draining B moves P to A without changing the advertised prefix winner, so a downstream relay receives no Restart; its lingering epochless copy can resubscribe through the unchanged claim into A's new instance. The referenced restart.md still plans entry-change detection on announcement winners and does not cover this case. Add per-path invalidation/identity propagation to that contract, with a two-relay regression where P's winner changes but the prefix's winner does not, before removing the caveat. This is a planning gap, not a runtime regression introduced by this docs-only commit.
Still open: the TRACK-to-SUBSCRIBE cap handoff from #5010 (review). track-stream-demand.md:33–46 and :57–59 are unchanged; admitted TRACKs must be able to become SUBSCRIBEs at the cap without needing a second reservation or dropping demand. No duplicate inline finding.
Direction: the no-splice invariant is sound, but its propagation must cover prefix pools as well as exact announcements. The earlier Restart re-scope remains an improvement.
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68-69: 🗄️ Data Integrity & Integration | 🔵 Trivial | ⚡ Quick winCover mixed-version claim rejoin in verification.
The plan claims that the viewer's version should not matter, but the verification cases do not combine a lite-07 worker-to-relay path with a lite-06 or IETF viewer. They also do not assert that a new epoch on the same claim discards the old front's cached groups before rejoining.
Add this case to the relay integration test. Keep the old groups cached, restart the claimed output with a new epoch, and assert that the viewer receives only the new instance's groups. If the epoch mismatch does not trigger that cache separation, define the required invalidation or rejoin behavior.
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- Around line 68-69: Extend the relay integration test to cover a lite-07
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restart the output under the same claim with a new epoch, and assert the viewer
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Fixed in the plan: quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md:43–50 now transfers the held TRACK reservation to its matching SUBSCRIBE; :61–64 exercises that handoff at the cap. This addresses the earlier admission finding. The mixed-version cache-separation case at claim-epochs.md:79–82 also addresses CodeRabbit's verification point.
Still open: the P2 prefix-pool Restart gap, also acknowledged in the author's update. claim-epochs.md:36–40 and largest-regression.md:23–27 still assume every route change invalidates downstream copies. A path can switch workers while its advertised prefix winner stays unchanged; the merged Restart plan still lacks per-path invalidation for that case. Keep the caveat until that mechanism and the two-relay regression are specified. No duplicate inline finding.
Direction: the reservation handoff and mixed-version coverage are sound improvements. No additional actionable issue found in this delta.
Verification: separated the main merge from the two-file follow-up, checked the affected quests, current Restart/request-cap contracts and origin's prefix-versus-path ranking, and rechecked head/state/reviews. Static GitHub-only planning review; no builds, tests or interop run. Check is queued.
Maintainer decision 2026-10-08: a Restart unsets the relay's cached copy, so the next subscription goes upstream to the new route, and a per-path winner change under an unchanged prefix winner is a source change for that path. Drops the relay-chain caveat, and the dangling stats-epoch link left by moq-dev#4904 and moq-dev#5041 crossing. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Improved: quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/restart.md:28–38 now requires invalidation when a path's winner changes under an unchanged prefix winner; :155–159 adds the two-relay regression. This addresses the missing per-path requirement from the previous review. The cap handoff and mixed-version verification fixes remain intact.
Still open, narrowed from the existing P2: restart.md:36–38 defers the older-wire representation, but claim-epochs.md:36–42 and largest-regression.md:23–27 already rely on unconditional propagation. On lite-06, ANNOUNCE_END names an existing Announce ID, not an arbitrary path (rs/moq-net/src/lite/announce.rs:250; lite/subscriber.rs:232–235). If only pool was advertised, pool/P has no ID to retract; an unknown ID is a protocol violation. The planned END/START fallback therefore does not yet specify how that cached path is invalidated. Choose a compatible fallback and its scope, or retain the version caveat until one is settled. Explicitly run the prefix-pool regression over lite-06, where the new lite-07 message cannot help. This remains a planning gap, not a runtime regression introduced here. No duplicate inline finding.
Direction: per-path invalidation is the right contract; the legacy fallback is the remaining decision. No additional actionable issue found in this delta.
Verification: separated the main merge from the planning changes, inspected the related quests and announce codec/receiver, and rechecked head/state/reviews. Static GitHub-only review; no builds, tests or interop run. Check and Test are queued.
Maintainer decision 2026-10-08: a Restart names a route on every version, and a subscriber unsets the cached copy of every broadcast whose longest matching route it is. A per-path winner change under a prefix pool goes out as a Restart of the prefix. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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The previous P2 legacy-fallback gap is addressed in the plan. quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/restart.md:34–44 now restarts the announced prefix route and invalidates broadcasts for which it is the longest match, so lite-06 can reference the existing prefix Announce ID instead of an unannounced child. Lines 162–167 explicitly require the two-relay prefix-pool regression on lite-06 and lite-07, including paths whose worker did not change. claim-epochs.md:36–43 and largest-regression.md:23–28 now use the same route-level contract.
Direction: this is a coherent compatibility tradeoff, with broader prefix-wide resubscriptions made explicit. No additional actionable issue found in this three-file delta. The earlier cap-handoff and mixed-version verification fixes remain intact.
Verification: compared against the previous reviewed head and current main, inspected the affected plans and announce codec/receiver, and rechecked head/state/reviews. Static GitHub-only planning review; no builds, tests or interop run. GitHub's Check workflow is queued.
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Merge summary: plans TRACK stream demand, idle fronts (re-scoped to reclaiming per-path state), claim-served epochs (re-scoped to instance naming), and upstream position regression, aligned with Restart. Maintainer decisions 2026-10-08: routes without an epoch never splice; a Restart unsets the cache and the next subscription goes upstream; Restart is route-level only, and nested broadcasts under the longest-matching route restart (edited into (Written by Claude Opus 5.5) |
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Problem
A pool of transcode workers claiming one prefix with
origin::Producer::dynamic(found by an external consumer, OneTooMany) hit two relay-side bugs onmain:Cost::DRAIN. A new viewer on a new session minutes later still gets P from the drained worker, while a fresh path goes to the cheaper claim. Cause: under a claim, the session answers with a placeholder source that lives as long as the claim, so the relay never seesSourceClosed. An epoch-less front stays on its first route (feat(net)!: carry publisher epochs on routes #4942),request()joins any live front whose epoch matches (None == None), and nothing ends a front for having no readers. Without a relay, the same setup re-resolves, because the in-process front sees the worker's broadcast close.query()counts as demand and is dropped once TRACK_INFO is written, and the subscriber sends SUBSCRIBE only after reading it. A publisher seesused,unused,usedwith a gap of one RTT per hop. A worker that stops onDemand::unusedcloses and recreates its output for every first viewer. lite-04 and moq-transport don't do this.Both reproduced on
main(f773aaf).Since then, Restart (
quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/restart.md, #5012, absorbing #5013's un-epoched takeover) reverses #4942's stickiness for new requests: a request joins a front only while its route still wins, so cause 1's routing half (a drained claim's front capturing new viewers) is Restart's. What remains of cause 1 is the per-path state a front leaves behind.Approach
quest/m0/idle-fronts.md[M]: a front ends once all its tracks are forgotten (IDLE_LINGER) and nothing holds its broadcast, and the session drops its placeholder source with it, so a standing claim stops accumulating per-path state. Re-scoped: Restart owns re-routing a drained claim's path.quest/m0/track-stream-demand.md[M]: an open TRACK stream counts as interest, and the subscriber FINs it once its SUBSCRIBE gets its first response. A held stream counts against the per-session subscription cap from request-caps, which it now requires. Rust, JS and one draft sentence.quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/claim-epochs.md[L]: on lite-07, TRACK_INFO carries the epoch of the instance that answered a claim request. The relay's front adopts it, so a restarted output is never spliced into a lingering copy, and an epoch per output costs no first-view restart. The lite-07 finalize quest now waits on it. Re-scoped: the unread-front re-resolve moved to Restart's join rule.quest/m0/largest-regression.md[S]: a relay copy that sees upstream's largest group go backwards ends with an error instead of serving the old instance's cache. No wire change; covers lite-07 and moq-transport.quest/m1/origin-front-parks.md: the filtered-front leak a peer session leaves behind moves to idle-fronts.quest/m1/route-wakes.md: "a serving front follows the best route" is narrowed to routes with its epoch; a front without one, or replaced by a newer epoch, stays for its subscribers (Restart), and new requests take a fresh front.Scope, priority and milestone are proposals for the maintainer's review.
Decisions:
Goal and split
Milestone for the pinned front
The spurious unused edge (less certain when raised)
Upstream tracking
How the TRACK/SUBSCRIBE gap closes
When the subscriber FINs the TRACK stream (re-decided after review: lite-05+ does have a first SUBSCRIBE response, and a relay handling the FIN first drops its copy at once)
Bounding a held TRACK stream (raised in review)
Demand quest scope
Demand quest milestone
When a front ends, and which fronts
A claim worker that re-serves a closed path at group 0 (reuses a name, so a publisher bug)
Per-path placeholder sources piling up on the session under a claim
route-wakes' "a serving front follows the best route" (predates #4942)
Owner of the peer session's leftover filtered front (raised in review; origin-front-parks took it on 2026-10-05)
A relay learning that a claim-served broadcast closed (raised by the consumer after the first revision)
Re-resolving an unread front on a new request
Where a served broadcast's epoch lives
Request::acceptacceptA read front when a cheaper route appears
Failing loud when upstream's largest group goes backwards
Re-planned after #5012/#5013 (2026-10-07, maintainer direction relayed; options picked by the iterating agent as recommended):
Merge main with Restart
idle-fronts after Restart's join rule
claim-epochs after Restart
claim-epochs' warning that the join rule is unsafe without epochs
route-wakes amendment
Relay-chain splice under Restart's join rule
Prefix pools: a path's winner moves while the prefix's advertised winner stays, so no Restart reaches downstream (OpenAI review of 6ee3e0d)
restart.mdwith a mocked prefix-pool test; the caveat is dropped from claim-epochs and largest-regression.How a per-path Restart travels on older wires (OpenAI review of 83a3f55: lite-06 ANNOUNCE_END can only name an announced route)
Review findings on 6ee3e0d and 9bfa0de
idle-fronts milestone after the re-scope (now a per-path state leak)
track-stream-demand, largest-regression, origin-front-parks, lite07-finalize
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