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Adds quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-split.md [L]. Each node's stats broadcast publishes per-group cumulative totals that are never pruned, plus one stats track per broadcast, served only when requested. The per-path map tracks are retired. It gates the same release as stats epochs, so it lives under m0/broadcast-epoch with them (the 2026-10-05 audit moved gating quests under the line). Open: idle-group announce behavior and sessions.json, listed in the plan.

Why: counters are cumulative per entry, and an entry is pruned right after its closing frame. So a broadcast that starts and ends inside a group a reader missed shows up in no later frame. MoQ Pro's announced probe and billing both read the map, and both undercount when they lag. The maps also grow with every live broadcast, while billing wants only per-project sums.

Decisions (planned in moq-dev/moq.pro#2202)

Relay stats: what should the relay publish so readers stop depending on catching every group?

  • Add unpruned totals alongside the map
  • ✅ Split into per-broadcast tracks (with totals; the map retires)
  • Keep the map as is

Goal: "Each relay node publishes per-project (stats group) cumulative totals that are never pruned, plus one stats track per broadcast on demand; the map tracks retire." Is that the outcome?

  • ✅ Yes, but cumulative within an epoch, with a new epoch on startup. Don't serialize to disk.
  • Keep the map too

When should the split ship?

  • ✅ With stats epochs (one break for consumers)
  • After, in upstream m2

(Written by Claude Opus 5.5)

Update (ea6e046)

  • stats-split.md: the idle group and sessions.json items are settled and the Open list is gone. A group lingers and then unannounces, and a return announces under a new epoch counted from zero. Per-tier session counts fold into the totals, with per-root detail served as a requested track. The aggregator merges one broadcast's track across nodes when a reader requests it. The Goal now holds "loses nothing" only while the group is announced, which answers Grok's blocking item.
  • stats-epoch.md: one epoch per group announcement. This replaces 2026-10-02's one epoch per producer. MoQ Pro's VOD storage.json mints its own epoch.

Stats counter contract: decisions (2026-10-05, quest-plan)

Paper trail of the prompts, ✅ = chosen. The earlier rounds (map retirement, release, announced, rows, index) are above.

Stats feed transport without per-pid announcements

  • ✅ In-band epoch (later superseded by the user's own path-epoch proposal below)
  • Path epoch, bare resolution

Epoch lifetime (customer feed)

  • Per control process: chosen first, then replaced by "per announce, both layers"
  • Per demand

Feed path

  • ✅ .dash/<pid>/stats/@<epoch> (existing mount unchanged)
  • .stats/<pid>/@<epoch>

Counter contract and shape

  • Map + client baseline
  • ✅ Per-broadcast tracks

Stats docs

  • ✅ Inline (upstream doc/concept/stats.md and in-app help)
  • Separate guide quest

Customer feed shape after the split

  • ✅ Mirror the stock split (totals per tier/role with region and session counts; per-broadcast tracks on request, no region; found from the client's own announcements)
  • Add an index track

When the customer feed becomes visible

  • ✅ At the stats-split pin
  • Now, with a wire break at the pin

Upstream stats linger rank

  • ✅ Upstream m0 (applied in moq#4843)
  • Top of m1
  • Keep rank ~12

Idle node stats group: re-announce epoch

  • Same epoch, linger then unannounce
  • Same epoch, never unannounce
  • ✅ New epoch per announce. User: "more generic, and avoids holding pids in memory forever."

Customer feed epoch alignment

  • ✅ Per announce, both layers
  • Keep per control process

#2210's stats-feed/counter.md (CDN offsets on the map feed)

  • ✅ Replace it with the epoch feed
  • Keep both

Feed rank vs the m2 pin

  • Feed line to m2
  • ✅ Raise the pin to m1
  • Leave both

Billing: a new epoch's first frame keeps the 0-bill baseline, so charges don't change and billing can only under-bill.

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No blocking findings in this documentation-only change. Direction is sound: epoch-scoped cumulative totals address missed closing frames, demand-driven detail avoids broadcasting entire maps, and coordinating the wire break with stats epochs limits migration churn.

Non-blocking implementation clarification: quest/m1/stats-split.md:18–22 references existing Registry totals, but those currently retain only tier/role, not project/group (rs/moq-net/src/stats.rs:935–944, 1003–1005). Make preserving group attribution before retirement explicit, and cover two projects sharing a tier plus an idle group returning in the same epoch. Reusing the node-wide snapshot directly would misattribute project totals; current group publishers also disappear when empty (rs/moq-stats/src/produce.rs:334–344).

Verification: read all three changed-file patches and the relevant registry, producer, wire docs, and linked epoch/aggregate plans. Static review only; no build, tests, or runtime verification, and no validation of downstream MoQ Pro consumers.

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Review of #4846 at 33ae93f4

The diagnosis is accurate: Registry::report prunes an entry right after the drain that carries its closing readout (rs/moq-net/src/stats.rs, report / entries.retain), so a reader that misses that frame never sees the broadcast. Retiring the per-path maps for totals plus on-demand per-broadcast tracks fits that. A few plan claims don't match main, and one gap undercuts the goal itself.

Blocking

  1. Group broadcasts still unannounce, so per-group totals still get lost. The goal says a reader that misses a group "loses nothing", but on main, at depth ≥ 1, publish in rs/moq-stats/src/produce.rs (the extract_if(... depth > 0 && traffic_rows.is_empty() && session_rows.is_empty()) branch) finishes a group's broadcast on the first drain where the group has no rows. doc/concept/stats.md documents this too: "a group's broadcast is announced while that group has entries and unannounced once it has none". If a project's last broadcast ends inside a group the reader missed, the totals frame carrying its final increments is the last one before the track ends. Billing undercounts in exactly the case this quest is meant to fix. The quest has to pick one of two options. Either (a) a group broadcast with nonzero totals stays announced for the whole epoch, which means memory and announces grow with every distinct group seen in that epoch and needs a bound, or (b) it still unannounces, but the per-group total is kept and resumes when the group returns, and the doc says a reader can lose the final increments of a group that goes quiet. Also say how this works with the linger in quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843 (stats-linger.md), which changes the same unannounce rule.

  2. Registry doesn't keep per-group totals. The plan says Registry "already keeps unpruned lifetime totals… publish them per group". Registry::snapshot returns Snapshot { traffic: HashMap<Tier, [Traffic; 2]>, sessions: HashMap<Tier, Presence> }, so it's node-wide and keyed by tier only. And report folds pruned entries into retired.traffic by tier, which drops the path. At depth 0 that's the right number. At depth ≥ 1 (the per-project case billing actually wants) there's nothing to reuse: the retired accumulator has to be keyed by (group_key, tier), which is unbounded over the epoch unless (1) is settled. Please reword this so the implementer doesn't plan around a total that doesn't exist.

Non-blocking

  1. What happens to sessions.json? The goal says "the per-path map tracks are gone", but the retire list names only publisher.json and subscriber.json. sessions.json is also a map, keyed by auth root, and it has the same prune-after-closing-readout loss (roots.retain in report). Totals are described as "per tier and role", which covers traffic only. Say whether sessions.json stays as a map or folds into the totals as a per-tier Presence, and whether [<tier>/]sessions.json[.z] stays an accepted request name.

  2. The request caps are sized for tiers, not broadcasts. MAX_REQUESTED_TRACKS = 64 is per group broadcast, and its comment says it's "sized far above any real tier set (… ten tiers, three track kinds each)". A Broadcasts page that subscribes to every visible broadcast in a busy project would pass 64 quickly, and the rest would park against MAX_PARKED_REQUESTS = 256. Either give per-broadcast tracks their own cap or require re-sizing these, rather than saying the existing caps apply.

  3. Requests for broadcasts that don't exist. Today a valid-shaped request for a tier that hasn't recorded yet is held open with {} until it does. If the same applies to a broadcast path that never shows up (a typo, or one already pruned), a prober can hold up to the cap of tracks open indefinitely. Say whether such a request is refused, held with {} and reclaimed when its last consumer leaves, or finished right away. Also note that a per-broadcast track requested after its entry was pruned starts from zero.

  4. Naming ambiguity. Tiers can contain slashes (region/sjc) and so can broadcast paths. A name like <tier>/<path>/publisher.json can't be parsed without a separator that neither can contain. "Pick the track naming while implementing" is fine, but add this as a constraint so requested_track_shape stays unambiguous.

  5. Conflict with quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845. The quest-tree audit (quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845, open) moves quest/m1/stats-epoch.md and quest/m1/stats-aggregate-bound.md into quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/ and rewrites the same lines in quest/m1/README.md and quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/README.md. Whichever lands second needs to update the three links in stats-split.md and move the m1 README entry.

CI (Check, Test, Quest) was still pending at review time.

Verdict: ITERATE. (1) and (2) are wording and decision fixes, but as written the plan promises lossless per-project totals that the group-broadcast lifecycle and Registry don't deliver.

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12047d3 addresses the clarification:

  • The plan now says Registry's totals are node-wide (tier and role only). Totals are kept per group, with a pruned entry folded into its own group's total.
  • A group's totals outlive an idle group broadcast.
  • Tests cover two groups sharing a tier, and an idle group returning in the same epoch.

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Follow-up review of #4846 at 12047d3c

This is a re-review after the push of 12047d3c, which changes only quest/m1/stats-split.md. That push fixes blocking (2) and covers half of blocking (1).

Fixed

  • (2) Registry totals. The plan now says Registry's totals are node-wide and per tier and role, so they can't be published as-is. It says to keep totals per group and fold a pruned entry into its group's total. That matches Snapshot and retired.traffic on main, and the two-groups-sharing-a-tier test covers the merge case.

Still open

  1. (1, blocking) A reader can still miss a group's last increments, and the Goal says it can't. The push picks part of option (b): a group's totals stay in memory after its broadcast disappears and continue when the group returns. But the new bullet only says the totals "must survive" the group broadcast disappearing (publish in rs/moq-stats/src/produce.rs). It never says whether the broadcast still unannounces. If it does, take a reader that misses the last totals frame before a group goes idle. It won't see those increments until the group comes back, and never sees them if the group stays quiet for the rest of the epoch. That contradicts the Goal's "a reader that misses a group loses nothing". Pick one of these and make the Goal match:

    • (a) A group broadcast with nonzero totals stays announced for the whole epoch.
    • (b) It still unannounces, and the Goal and doc/concept/stats.md say that a reader can lose an idle group's final increments until the group returns.

    Also say how this interacts with the linger in quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843 (quest/m1/stats-linger.md), which changes the same unannounce rule. That part isn't addressed yet.

  2. (new, non-blocking) Per-group totals have no stated bound. Totals that are "never pruned" and outlive their entries make the producer's map keyed by group, tier and role. That map grows with every distinct group a node sees in an epoch, and on a long-lived node at depth 1 or more that means every project that ever touched it since startup. That's probably fine, but say so explicitly, or bound it. One option is to drop an idle group's total once it has been published and stays unchanged for a window. Bounded stats aggregate covers the aggregator only, not this producer-side map.

  3. (3) sessions.json is still neither retired nor folded into totals.

  4. (4) The request caps. The plan still says the existing MAX_REQUESTED_TRACKS (64, sized for tiers) and MAX_PARKED_REQUESTS caps apply to per-broadcast tracks.

  5. (5) Requests for broadcasts that don't exist. The plan still doesn't say whether these are refused, held, or finished, or that a track requested after its broadcast was pruned starts from zero.

  6. (6) Track naming. There's still no constraint that per-broadcast track names stay unambiguous when both tiers and paths contain /.

  7. (7) Conflict with quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845. quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845 is still open and moves stats-epoch.md and stats-aggregate-bound.md into quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/. Whichever lands second has to fix the three links here.

CI: Quest was still pending at review time.

Verdict: ITERATE. Only (1) blocks merging, and it's a wording and decision fix. Either keep idle groups announced, or soften the "loses nothing" goal and document the gap.

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The quest documents specify stats epochs per group announcement, including idle-group linger and reset behavior. They describe how the aggregator handles new epochs and how MoQ Pro VOD storage uses its own epoch. A new plan defines epoch-scoped group totals, on-demand broadcast and session-detail tracks, request limits, and retirement of existing map tracks.

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This change updates the stats design plan only; no runtime behavior changes yet. The plan still leaves one gap: if a reader misses a group's final totals before the group goes idle, the last increments of that period are lost. Billing would rely on a recovery step that cannot restore them. Either clarify the guarantee or explicitly accept the gap before implementation starts.

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  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/README.md: The Stats epochs requirement now covers each group announcement and says both restarted nodes and returning idle groups must not stall viewers. A new requirement adds retiring per-path stats maps for totals and per-broadcast tracks.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-aggregate-bound.md: The plan adds that epochs make idle-returning stats groups new paths, limiting grace re-arming to reconnects of still-announced paths and the double-count case to same-epoch returns.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-epoch.md: The document changes from describing one epoch per stats producer to one per group announcement. It specifies that idle groups are unannounced after their linger period and return with a new epoch, while depth 0 retains its epoch for the producer’s lifetime.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-epoch.md: The plan replaces a shared producer-wide epoch with an epoch per group announcement and documents the idle-group reset, bounded active and lingering state, possible loss of increments when a reader misses the last frame, and the depth-0 exception.
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- Around line 37-38: Update the retirement plan to explicitly state whether
sessions.json and its .json.z sibling, along with Consumer::sessions, remain
supported; if they are retired, identify their replacement for reading
auth-root-keyed Presence gauges.
- Around line 27-30: Update the plan around Drain::publish to define how readers
obtain a group’s retained totals while it is idle, including behavior for
readers that miss its closing totals. Specify how idle reads interact with
#4843’s linger while preserving totals across the group’s return within the same
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- Around line 24-25: Update the plan around per-group totals to define a
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expected maximum number of groups and size the retained totals map accordingly.
- Line 35: Update the track-naming specification in the readout plan to define
an injective encoding of the tier and broadcast path that preserves their
boundary even when either contains `/`. Specify a concrete, unambiguous
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- Around line 32-35: Specify that requests for never-seen or pruned broadcasts
return a valid zero-valued track, consistent with unrecorded-tier requests, and
state that each new broadcast’s counters start at zero. Update the per-broadcast
track behavior description without changing the existing pruning or producer
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- Around line 35-36: Clarify the per-group visible-track limit in the plan and
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- **Per-broadcast tracks.** A reader that wants one broadcast subscribes to
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Define the request behavior for unknown and pruned broadcasts.

After Registry::report prunes an entry, its retired state keeps counters by tier, not by broadcast path. Specify what a request for a never-seen or pruned broadcast returns, and state that a new broadcast’s counters start at zero. Do not assume NotFound is required: the current producer serves a valid request for an unrecorded tier with a zero-valued track.

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Specify that requests for never-seen or pruned broadcasts return a valid
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Fixed in b8c0749: counters start at zero, and a request for a never-seen or pruned broadcast is held open with zeroed counters, like an unrecorded tier today, and reclaimed when its last consumer leaves. No NotFound.

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- **Per-broadcast tracks.** A reader that wants one broadcast subscribes to
its track; nothing is produced for a broadcast no one requests. The track
carries that broadcast's cumulative counters and finishes after its closing
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Specify an injective per-broadcast track-name encoding.

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Update the track-naming specification in the readout plan to define an injective
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Fixed in b8c0749: the naming is still picked while implementing, but must be injective, since tiers and paths both contain /.

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@kixelated, an explicit injectivity requirement addresses the naming concern. The concrete encoding can remain an implementation decision.

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Moves stats-split under quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/ next to stats epochs,
per the 2026-10-05 audit rule that quests gating an m0 line live under it,
and drops its m1 README entry. Addresses review: injective track naming,
start-at-zero and held-open requests for unknown broadcasts, a
per-broadcast request cap, the accepted per-epoch totals growth, and two
open questions (idle groups, sessions.json).

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Follow-up review of #4846 at b8c07492

This is a re-review after the push of b8c07492. It's a merge of origin/main (which landed the #4845 audit), but the merge also moves the quest to quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-split.md, adds its entry to that folder's README, and rewrites the plan. Compared with 12047d3c, the PR's own changes address every earlier finding. The two decisions that are still open are now listed in a new Open section instead of being implied as settled.

Fixed

  • (2, new in the last review) Totals bound. The plan now accepts that the totals map grows with every distinct group per epoch and gives the reason (a few counters per tier and role, and a restart empties it).
  • (4) Request caps. Per-broadcast tracks now get their own cap sized for one page, and requests over it are refused instead of parked. MAX_REQUESTED_TRACKS is 64 on main, as the quest says.
  • (5) Missing broadcasts. These are held open with zeroed counters and reclaimed when the last consumer leaves. That matches how main treats an unrecorded tier (reclaim in rs/moq-stats/src/produce.rs). Counters start at zero.
  • (6) Naming. The track naming now has to be injective, with the reason (both tiers and paths contain /).
  • (7) quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845 conflict. quest: apply the 2026-10-05 quest-tree audit #4845 merged. All three links now point at quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/, both targets exist there, and the m1 README entry is gone.

Moved to Open (no longer blocking)

  1. (1) Idle groups. The Open section describes the gap correctly and gives the two options, including quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843's linger. The only leftover issue is that the Goal still says without qualification that "a reader that misses a group loses nothing", and the Open item admits that contradicts it. Add a pointer from the Goal sentence to the Open item, or qualify the sentence, so whoever implements this doesn't read the Goal as already decided. The stats-linger.md that quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843 adds is still only in that open PR, so linking the PR rather than the file is the right call for now.
  2. (3) sessions.json. It's now listed as open, with both options. Nothing more is needed until it's decided.

Non-blocking (new)

  • Late subscribers to a broadcast that just ended get zeros. A per-broadcast track "finishes after its closing readout", and a request for an already-pruned broadcast is held with zeroed counters. So a Broadcasts page that loads, or resubscribes, right after a broadcast closes shows that broadcast at zero, not its final numbers. If the same path is reused later in the epoch, the held track then switches to the new broadcast's counters. That's probably acceptable, since totals carry the real sums, but it's worth one sentence so the moq.pro side doesn't treat a zeroed per-broadcast track as authoritative.
  • Scope of the new cap. Say whether the per-broadcast cap applies per group broadcast (like MAX_REQUESTED_TRACKS today) or per node. "Sized for one page" only makes sense per group.

CI (Check, Test, Quest) was still pending at review time.

Verdict: MERGE once CI is green. The remaining items are decisions the quest now flags openly, plus a one-line Goal qualifier.

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No new actionable defects in this documentation-only revision. My previous clarification is addressed in quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-split.md:21–30: totals preserve group attribution across pruning and idle periods, with both regression scenarios required. The move under the release-gating quest and its updated dependency links are consistent.

Direction remains sound for planning. The Open section, lines 57–65 correctly leaves idle-group readability and sessions.json to a maintainer decision. Resolve those before implementation and align the Goal with the chosen retention guarantee; retaining counters alone does not make an unannounced group's final totals readable. These are already tracked questions, not additional duplicate findings.

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Grok review of ea6e04622e8061edcc2be4b3bc29ff7d7af65f00 (full review; no earlier Grok review on this PR)

Quest-only change. I checked the claims against main: the Registry::snapshot totals are node-wide per tier and role (rs/moq-net/src/stats.rs:931), report prunes right after an entry's closing readout (:970), a group broadcast unpublishes on the first drain with no rows (rs/moq-stats/src/produce.rs:340), MAX_REQUESTED_TRACKS is 64 (produce.rs:115), and unrecorded tiers are held open with zeros (serve_requests). All accurate. The issues are about dependencies and a few plan details.

Blocking

1. The m0 release gate now depends on an m1 quest that isn't merged. stats-split.md:30 links the idle-group linger to #4843 (an open PR, not a quest path), and stats-epoch.md:16-18 now says a group "unannounces after its linger and drops its totals". The linger quest in #4843 is quest/m1/stats-linger.md. The broadcast-epoch README says the 2026-10-05 audit moved gating quests under m0 "so the release gate no longer waits on m1 work", but both gating quests now assume linger behavior that lives in m1 and isn't listed under ## Required. The order is also inverted: stats-split requires stats-epoch, but stats-epoch's goal now relies on the linger and the totals that only stats-split and stats-linger introduce. Fix: move stats-linger under m0/broadcast-epoch (or fold it into stats-split), list it under Required for whichever quest owns the idle-group epoch, and link the quest path rather than the PR.

Non-blocking

2. The per-broadcast cap is sized for one reader, but the aggregator fans in every reader. stats-split.md:49-52 sizes the per-broadcast cap "for one page". :62 has the aggregator merge one broadcast's track across nodes on request, so each node's per-group cap has to cover the union of every concurrent dashboard page for that project, not just one. A second viewer paging the same project gets refused. Say whether the cap is per group broadcast, and size it for aggregate demand (or make it configurable).

3. "Refuse beyond the cap" reverses an existing design decision without saying so. MAX_PARKED_REQUESTS (produce.rs:117-123) exists because a collector that treats one rejection as final loses the tier until the broadcast unannounces. Refusing per-broadcast requests over the cap brings that failure back. If refusal is intended, note why it's safe here (for example, that readers retry on a typed error).

4. A just-ended broadcast reads as zeros. :44-48: the track "finishes after its closing readout", and a request for an already-pruned entry is "held open with zeroed counters". A Broadcasts page that subscribes a moment after a broadcast ends shows zeros instead of its final counters, which is indistinguishable from "no traffic". Either keep the finished track's last frame serveable for a short window, or have the zero frame mark itself as "no entry" so readers can tell the two cases apart.

5. The data-loss wording is imprecise. :34-35 says a reader that lags past the linger "loses the increments in the frames it missed". Since totals are cumulative, missing middle frames costs nothing; only missing the last frame before the unannounce does (which is what stats-epoch.md says). Billing is the main consumer, so it's worth stating plainly that a billing reader disconnected across a group's final frame loses that epoch's tail, and saying who covers it (for example, the aggregator's grace fold).

6. stats-epoch.md contradicts itself. :22 still lists Producer::epoch() as prior art to reuse, while :31-32 says a producer-wide epoch "no longer exists". Drop or reword the Producer::epoch() mention (per-group-broadcast accessor instead). Also, depth 0 never unannounces (produce.rs:336), so there the epoch is still effectively per producer. Worth one line.

7. stats-aggregate-bound.md wasn't updated for per-announcement epochs. Its grace window re-arms "if its path returns", but with a fresh epoch per announcement a returning group is always a new path, so the re-arm never fires for idle returns. Its Open double-count question mostly goes away too, and its Related line still says only "every restarted node gets a new name". A sentence there would keep the two quests consistent.

8. Missing consumer. demo/web/src/stats.ts reads publisher.json, subscriber.json, and sessions.json directly. Add it next to the aggregator and doc/concept/stats.md in the "Update" bullet, since retiring the maps breaks it. Also, the plan doesn't say whether the totals and per-broadcast tracks keep .json.z compressed siblings.

Cross-PR

  • #4843's stats-linger.md promises "cumulative traffic totals are kept" while a group lingers empty. The per-group folded totals here are what make that true (today the registry prunes the entries), so the two quests should reference each other and land in a consistent order.

CI (Quest, Check, Test) is still pending.

Verdict: ITERATE. The plan is sound and the code claims check out, but the release-gating quest shouldn't depend on an unmerged m1 quest. Fix #1 and this is a merge.

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Name the m0 linger quest, scope the per-broadcast cap, mark zeroed tracks
non-authoritative, add demo/web as a consumer, and align stats-epoch and the
bounded aggregate with per-announcement epochs.

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Addressed the Grok review of ea6e0462 in af642ff:

  1. m1 dependency. quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843 already places the linger at quest/m0/stats-linger.md, so the gate no longer waits on m1. The file isn't on main yet, so stats-split.md names that path and says to list it under Required once quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843 lands, instead of a dead link.
  2. Cap scope. The cap is per group broadcast and sized (or configurable) for every reader the aggregator fans in.
  3. Refusal vs parking. Kept refusal, with the reason: a parked per-broadcast track reads as zero, and readers retry on the typed error, unlike tier collectors.
  4. Zeroed track after close. Documented that a zeroed per-broadcast track isn't authoritative; totals carry the real sums.
  5. Loss wording. Reworded: only missing the last frame before the unannounce loses the tail, and billing relies on the aggregator's grace fold.
  6. stats-epoch.md. Dropped Producer::epoch() as prior art in favor of a per-group accessor, and noted that the depth-0 epoch lasts the producer's life.
  7. stats-aggregate-bound.md. Noted that idle returns are always a new path, so the grace re-arm covers only reconnects of a path that is still announced.
  8. Consumers. Added demo/web/src/stats.ts. Left whether the new tracks keep .json.z siblings to the implementer.

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Follow-up review of #4846 at af642ff6c752c64d1924be4ad10017172f2a94c1

This is a re-review after the push of af642ff6 ("address review of stats-split at ea6e046"), compared against the last reviewed head ea6e0462. It touches only the three quest files and applies most of the earlier findings.

Fixed

  • (1) m0 gate depending on m1 work. stats-split.md:30-32 now points at quest/m0/stats-linger.md, and quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843's head (10ecad46) does put that quest in m0. So the gate no longer waits on m1. One follow-on point is in the first non-blocking item below.
  • (2) Per-broadcast cap. It's now per group broadcast and sized (or configurable) for every reader the aggregator fans in (:54-57).
  • (3) Refusal vs parking. The plan now explains why tier requests park and per-broadcast requests get a typed, retryable error (:57-60).
  • (6) stats-epoch.md. The Producer::epoch() prior-art mention is gone, a per-group accessor replaces it (:32-33), and depth 0 is called out (:21-22).
  • (7) Bounded aggregate. The new bullet (stats-aggregate-bound.md:29-31) correctly limits the grace re-arm to still-announced paths.
  • (8) Consumers. demo/web/src/stats.ts is listed, and the .json.z question is deferred to implementation, which is fine.

Non-blocking

  1. The linger is a hard dependency on one side and "not a release gate" on the other. stats-split.md:32 says to list stats-linger under Required once it lands. Since stats-split is Required by the release-gating broadcast-epoch/README.md:93, that would make the linger gate the release. But quest: plan moq.pro audit follow-ups (RTSP library ingest, archive HLS renderer, client health, lite-07 final, GPU health) #4843's quest/m0/stats-linger.md:16-18 says it "sits in m0 as a standalone quest, not a release gate." Pick one. Without a linger, per-announcement epochs still work (a returning group just takes a new epoch every time), so listing it under Related, with a note that a zero linger is valid, would keep the gate independent. Listing it as Required means updating stats-linger.md to say it gates.
  2. The grace fold doesn't cover the lost tail. stats-split.md:37-38 says billing "relies on the aggregator's grace fold to cover it." The fold works with the aggregator's last-seen counters (stats-aggregate-bound.md:21-22). If the aggregator itself missed the final totals, it folds the stale value, so the tail is still lost. The fold only keeps the merged total from regressing. Also, my earlier item 5 was imprecise. During the linger no entries remain, so every frame from the last closing readout to the unannounce carries the same final totals. A reader loses the tail only if it misses all of those frames, which means lagging past the whole linger, not just missing the last frame. Suggested wording: "a reader that misses every frame across the linger loses that epoch's tail. Billing under-bills by that tail, consistent with the 0-bill baseline." The same sentence in stats-epoch.md:19-20 needs the same fix. This also argues for item 1: with a zero linger, the window is a single frame.
  3. (4) is only half addressed. Marking a zeroed per-broadcast track "not authoritative" (:45-47) documents the problem, but the Broadcasts page still can't tell "ended and pruned" from "live with no traffic yet," because both read as zeros. A one-field marker in the zero frame (for example, "no entry") would let the page show "ended" instead of 0. Fine to leave to implementation, but worth a sentence.
  4. Stale Related line. stats-aggregate-bound.md:46 still says only "every restarted node gets a new name." With this PR, every group re-announcement does too.

Cross-PR

CI (Check, Quest, Test) is still pending.

Verdict: MERGE once CI is green. The blocking dependency is resolved, and what's left is wording and one gate-vs-related decision.

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Reviewed commit: af642ff

Direction remains sound for this documentation-only plan. Since my last published review, the idle-group and sessions decisions are settled: linger preserves totals within an announcement; expiry drops them and a return gets a fresh epoch; sessions join totals with requested per-root detail. The cap scope, retry contract, and consumer migration are now explicit.

One non-blocking wording correction remains, already identified in the latest review, so this is not a separate finding: stats-split.md:35–38 should qualify the grace-fold claim. stats-aggregate-bound.md:19–22 preserves received counters; it cannot recover terminal increments the aggregator never received. Distinguish downstream reader lag from an aggregator missing all final-total frames through the linger. The accepted undercount tradeoff need not change.

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Merge summary

Adds quest/m0/broadcast-epoch/stats-split.md [L] under the broadcast-epoch release gate. The stats maps retire in favor of per-group cumulative totals and per-broadcast tracks served on request. It also updates stats-epoch.md to one epoch per group announcement and stats-aggregate-bound.md for idle returns.

Review rounds since ea6e0462:

  • af642ff: addressed the Grok review. It names the m0 linger quest, scopes the per-broadcast cap to the group broadcast and sizes it for aggregate demand, explains why over-cap requests are refused instead of parked, marks a zeroed per-broadcast track as non-authoritative, lists demo/web/src/stats.ts as a consumer, and aligns stats-epoch.md and stats-aggregate-bound.md.
  • 72ee4ca: applies the maintainer's decision below and fixes the lost-tail wording in both quests. A reader loses an epoch's tail only by missing every frame across the linger, and billing under-bills by that tail, consistent with the 0-bill baseline. The wrong grace-fold claim is removed.

Decision (maintainer, 2026-10-05)

Does stats linger gate the release? No. quest/m0/stats-linger.md (#4843) goes under Related in stats-split.md once it lands, not Required. A zero linger is valid, since a returning group then simply takes a new epoch.

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