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Plans Rendition preference in m1. Each hang video rendition gets an optional preference: a signed integer, absent means 0, higher wins. Automatic selection (<moq-watch>, hang::catalog::Video::ranked, WHEP's codec choice) keeps only the highest preference that the viewer can decode, then picks by target and bitrate inside that tier as it does today. Motivation: a viewer should only subscribe to a compatibility transcode (H.265 republished as H.264, marked -1) when it can't decode the source.

Also points JS rendition ranking at the new ordering.

Public API / wire impact: none in this PR, which only adds a quest. The planned change adds one optional catalog field, so it is backwards compatible.

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Can the catalog already express a preferred rendition? No. Using stalled for this misuses the field and collapses a transcoded ladder to its lowest rung.

Name it after the cluster's cost? No. Routing cost chooses between paths to the same bytes, while renditions are different pictures. An honest "produced on demand" cost would also mark moq-transcode's rungs, so capable viewers could never step down.

Shape? The first pass chose fallback: bool. On takeover the maintainer asked whether that is generic enough.

  • fallback: bool: two tiers only. For an AV1 > H.265 > H.264 ladder, today's area-then-bitrate sort picks H.264 over an AV1 rung of the same size, because the H.264 bitrate is higher.
  • ✅ Strict numeric tier: keep the best tier that decodes, then use the existing ladder pick inside it. Same implementation cost as the bool.
  • Total order (DASH @qualityRanking, HLS SCORE): the publisher would rank every rung by hand, and ABR still needs size and bitrate to step down.

Name and direction? Prior art: DASH @selectionPriority (strict across per-codec Adaptation Sets, higher wins), DASH @qualityRanking (lower wins, within a set), HLS SCORE (higher wins, quality traded against bandwidth), SDP payload order, MSF (no field).

  • ✅ preference, signed, higher wins: a new preferred ladder is 1 without renumbering, and a fallback is -1
  • tier, unsigned, lower wins
  • selectionPriority: collides with track send priority
  • order / rank: read as a total or display order, and rank collides with moq-lite's rank

How does preference interact with bandwidth and stalled? Strict tiers. A supported source wins even over a budget that only fits the lower tier, and even while the source is stalled. Preference is about decodability only.

Who respects it? Browser and Rust (<moq-watch>, Video::ranked, plus a WHEP codec-choice fix). Video only. moq-ffi, libmoq, and the bindings wait until a native player needs it.

Milestone? m1. Docs? Inline only (hang draft, doc/concept/hang.md).

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One actionable planning gap: WHEP codec selection needs to honor the fallback tier before rendition ranking can deliver the stated behavior (inline).

Direction: the optional boolean is a proportionate solution for two tiers; keeping adaptive ladder rungs outside the compatibility-fallback tier avoids unnecessary ranking machinery. This PR changes quest documents only, with no current API or wire change.

Verification: inspected all three changed files and the browser selector, catalog schemas, Rust ranking, RTMP/FLV, WHEP, and transcoder selection paths. Static review only; tests and quest check were not run.

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- `Video::ranked` sorts every fallback after every non-fallback, then by
picture and bitrate as today. Its callers take the first rendition they
support, so they need no change. Update the

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[P2] Include WHEP codec selection in the plan

WHEP does not take the first rendition it supports across codecs: Session::handle_media (rs/moq-rtc/src/session.rs:372-395) chooses the first negotiated payload type, then pick_video (rs/moq-rtc/src/egress.rs:233-241) filters ranked() to that codec. catalog_codecs() still advertises both tiers. A peer that supports an H.265 source and its H.264 fallback can therefore select H.264 first and subscribe to the fallback even after the proposed ranking change. Replace the “callers ... need no change” assumption with an explicit WHEP selection step that prefers a supported non-fallback across negotiated codecs, and add a regression case where both codecs are offered but the fallback codec comes first.

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Quest-only plan for a hang fallback: bool on video renditions so <moq-watch> and Video::ranked prefer a source over a codec-compatibility transcode unless nothing else decodes. Checked the claims against rs/hang Video::ranked / VideoConfig::stalled, js/watch/src/video/source.ts (selectableRenditions + target.name), and the ranked callers (RTMP play selection, FLV bind, WHEP egress, moq-transcode choose_source). Paths, VideoConfigSchema, draft/stalled omit semantics, and the “stay on stalled source” decision match the code. No contradictions or broken links. CI still running at review time; PR already notes existing quest check noise in untouched files.

Non-blocking

  1. Tests list misses the key product decision. Plan prose correctly puts fallback drop before stalled, but the Tests bullets never say “a stalled supported source wins over an unstalled fallback.” That order is easy to invert when editing source.ts; add it so the implementer has a failing case if they filter stalled first.
  2. Goal slightly overclaims RTMP multitrack. Single-track RTMP/FLV/WHEP/transcode honor ranked-after-support; a multitrack RTMP client still gets every rendition (including fallbacks). Worth a half-sentence so “only subscribe when they must” isn’t read as universal.
  3. Naming collision in js-ranked. Its Goal still says “@moq/watch’s fallback pick” meaning the no-budget degradation path. Once this quest lands, that phrase will read as the new field. Consider “degraded pick” / “budget fallback” when touching that file.

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Walkthrough

The pull request adds a fallback-renditions quest to the m1 required list and documents proposed fallback selection rules, implementation plans, and tests. It also updates the JavaScript ranking plan to sort fallback renditions last after the planned behavior is implemented.

Priority: ⬇️ Low

Merge Risk: 🔵 Low · up to ea159

This PR only changes planning documents and has no runtime impact. A minor documentation inaccuracy about tie-breaking between the Rust and JavaScript rankings may still be open. Confirm the plan states the difference before merging.

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  • observed — quest (service) was modified; 3 changed files map to changed impact.

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  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m1/README.md: Adds the Fallback renditions quest to the Required list and states that fallback video renditions are automatically selected by <moq-watch>, Video::ranked, and WHEP only when no other rendition decodes.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m1/js-ranked.md: The goal changes @moq/watch’s pick from a fallback pick to a no-target pick. The plan adds fallback renditions sorting last once that behavior lands and clarifies that exact ties in bestRendition currently retain catalog order instead of name order.
  • observed — Modified behavior in quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md: Added a document describing the fallback-rendition goal, selection and ranking rules, planned implementation and tests, scope exclusions, and related plans. These are documented plans, not implementation changes.
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- Line 13: Update bestRendition in js/watch to break ties with rendition name
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- Line 30: Update the rendition fallback rule in the “stalled” guidance to
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Mirror the Rust name and semantics. `bestRendition` in `js/watch` already
Mirror the Rust name and semantics, including fallback renditions sorting
last once [Fallback renditions](/quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md) lands. `bestRendition` in `js/watch` already

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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick win

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Correct the claim that bestRendition already matches Rust's tie ordering.

bestRendition retains the first entry when pixel area and bitrate are equal. Rust's Video::ranked preserves name order for exact ties. The replacement must add the name-order tie-break.

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Update bestRendition in js/watch to break ties with rendition name order after
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Thanks for the reviews. I checked every finding against the code and agreed with all of them. They're fixed in the latest push:

  • WHEP codec choice (OpenAI P2): confirmed. Session::handle_media takes the peer's first negotiated payload type before pick_video filters ranked(). The plan now includes a WHEP step that chooses across every negotiated video codec, plus a regression test where the fallback's codec is offered first. Resized to [M].
  • Stalled-source test (Grok 1): added "a supported source wins while it is stalled and the fallback is not".
  • RTMP multitrack (Grok 2): the Goal now names single-rendition egresses and states that a multitrack RTMP client still receives every rendition.
  • "fallback pick" in js-ranked (Grok 3): renamed to "no-target pick".
  • Tie order (CodeRabbit, js-ranked): confirmed. Rust's BTreeMap breaks exact ties by name, while JS keeps catalog order. The plan now says so.
  • Manual target.name (CodeRabbit): the Goal and the m1 README now say "selected automatically", and a manual-selection test is listed.

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The previous WHEP P2 is addressed in the plan: quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md:38-42 now requires selection across negotiated video codecs, with the fallback-codec-first regression case at lines 50-51. The automatic/manual distinction, stalled-source case, RTMP multitrack exception, and JS exact-tie clarification are consistent with the surrounding code.

Direction: the optional boolean remains a proportionate two-tier design; explicitly handling WHEP codec choice closes the gap that ranking alone could not cover. No additional preference machinery is needed for this scope.

Verification: inspected all three changed documents and the relevant WHEP, browser selection, Rust ranking, and RTMP/FLV paths. Static review only; tests and quest check were not run. These are planning fixes, not implemented runtime behavior.

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🟡 Minor · Qualify both fallback status statements as planned behavior. · rendition-fallback.md:58

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Qualify both fallback status statements as planned behavior.

The PR changes only quest documents. Current Video::ranked and JavaScript selection still rank by picture and bitrate, without fallback ordering. WHEP also selects the first ranked rendition for the negotiated codec. The present-tense wording can make readers believe fallback selection is already available.

Suggested fix
--- quest/m1/README.md
- [Fallback renditions](/quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md) - a video rendition marked `fallback` is only picked automatically, by `<moq-watch>`, `Video::ranked`, and WHEP, when nothing else decodes
+ [Fallback renditions](/quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md) - plans for a video rendition marked `fallback` to be picked automatically, by `<moq-watch>`, `Video::ranked`, and WHEP, when nothing else decodes

--- quest/m1/rendition-fallback.md
- [JS rendition ranking](/quest/m1/js-ranked.md) - mirrors `Video::ranked` in `@moq/hang`, which now sorts fallbacks last
+ [JS rendition ranking](/quest/m1/js-ranked.md) - will mirror `Video::ranked` in `@moq/hang`, which will sort fallbacks last once this quest lands
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@kixelated kixelated changed the title quest: plan fallback renditions quest: plan rendition preference Oct 1, 2026

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Reviewed the substantive change from fallback booleans to signed preference tiers since 2a782b0, excluding merged-main changes. One new planning gap: tier assignment for generated adaptive rungs (inline).

Direction: strict numeric tiers fit the stated three-codec ladder; renditions intended to adapt together must share a tier. The previous WHEP cross-codec selection fix, manual override, and stalled-source cases remain covered by the plan.

Verification: inspected all three changed documents and relevant browser selection, Rust ranking/schema, WHEP, and transcode catalog/pipeline code. Static review only; tests and quest check were not run. This PR changes plans, not runtime behavior.

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stepping down. The publisher sets `preference` explicitly; moq-transcode's
rungs keep the default and keep adapting.

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[P2] Plan tier assignment for nonzero-preference transcode ladders

Leaving generated rungs at the default 0 does not preserve adaptation when the source uses the newly supported 1 tier. With Config.source enabled, rs/moq-transcode/src/catalog.rs::populate retains the source config, while rung_entry builds fresh entries. A supported H.264 source at 1 plus generated H.264 rungs at 0 would therefore discard every rung before bitrate selection, even when only a rung fits the bandwidth budget. Include a transcode tier-assignment step so renditions intended to adapt together share a tier, keep that assignment current on source catalog updates, and add a nonzero-source/constrained-budget regression case. Unconditionally retaining 0 works only while the source is also at the default tier.

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Agreed. moq-transcode's rungs now inherit the source's preference: rung_entry copies it the way it copies optimize_for_latency, and the per-snapshot refresh next to inherit_stalled keeps it current. I added a test case for a source at preference 1 under a budget that fits only a rung. Fixed in dd12573.

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This plans Rendition preference (m1, [M]). It replaces the first draft's fallback: bool with an optional signed preference on each hang video rendition: absent means 0, and higher wins. Automatic selection keeps the highest tier that decodes, then picks by target and bitrate inside it.

Decisions confirmed by the maintainer during takeover:

  • A strict numeric tier, not a bool and not a total order. A bool can't express AV1 > H.265 > H.264. A total order would make publishers rank every rung by hand.
  • The name is preference, signed, higher wins, after DASH @selectionPriority. priority was avoided because it already means track send priority.

Review folded in: moq-transcode's rungs inherit the source's preference, so a ladder still adapts when the source is not at 0.

No API or wire change in this PR. The planned field is optional and additive.

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Reviewed the one-commit delta since 852a0d4. No new actionable findings.

The previous tier-assignment P2 is addressed in the plan: quest/m1/rendition-preference.md:33-36 now requires generated rungs to inherit the source's preference and refresh it on catalog updates; lines 69-70 add the nonzero-source/constrained-budget regression case. This covers both fresh rung creation and carried-over entries in the existing transcode pipeline. The prior WHEP cross-codec selection requirement and regression case remain intact.

Direction: keeping adaptive rungs in their source's tier preserves within-ladder ABR while retaining strict preference between ladders. The fix fits the existing catalog refresh path without additional ranking machinery.

Verification: inspected the delta, related quest text, browser selection, and transcode catalog/pipeline paths. Static review only; tests and quest check were not run. This PR changes the plan, not runtime behavior.

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