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feat(moq-mux)!: fixed-delay jitter buffer and per-PID T-STD admission for TS export - #4645

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Quests: quest/m1/tstd/delay.md and quest/m1/tstd/byte-schedule.md (both done and deleted here), part of the T-STD questline (#4640, merged; this PR now targets main with main merged in). Revised twice after t0ms graded it on a real broadcast capture (comments below). Also implements quest/m1/release-clock-recovery.md from t0ms's draft #4670, and carries t0ms's mocked-time export tests (export_timing_test.rs) and their late-track test and anchor fix (t0ms/moq-dev@d1b8a08, @5e2425f, cherry-picked with authorship).

Problem

moq export ts interleaved tracks with a stall/hold. Under loss, a rewind cleared every track's timeline, so the hold fell back to arrival order (#4613, interim fix #4618). The bytes clumped between PCRs, and the output failed the full T-STD buffer model.

t0ms's grading of the first version then showed: the as-late-as-possible schedule failed on heavy passages, a skip at join put video on its own clock, the authored DTS broke under field coding, multi-frame AC-3 PES overflowed B, PCRs sat up to a packet off their byte position, drift would starve or flood a long run, and two exporters joined at different times did not lay the same bytes. The re-grade of 559a35244 showed the clock anchored on the track with the most slack, so on most joins every audio and teletext frame was dropped as late.

Approach

  • Jitter buffer (rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs, crate-private jitter::Buffer), like an SRT receiver's TSBPD:
    • Each frame is released at its decode time plus the delay on one clock shared by every track, in (DTS, PID) order. A late frame is dropped and counted; video then waits for its next keyframe.
    • Release order is generation, then decode time, then PID, not the deadline: two frames of one decode time queued either side of a steering step can be due nanoseconds apart, which made the order (and so the bytes) depend on each process's clock state (t0ms's 1+1 trace, 2026-10-06).
    • The consumer reports which kind each discontinuity is. A skipped group whose timeline carried on keeps the clock: its late frames are strict-dropped, with no PCR break. A real restart (a declared marker) opens a new generation with a flagged PCR break, as does a skip after which frames would be held more than a delay past everything queued (a marker group the publisher shed). Every track's next frame runs on the new generation, and generations go out in turn. Each steering step records every track's slack against the others (its lead, which belongs to the source's mux and survives a restart). A new generation does not wait for a track whose lead is known, and is anchored late enough that the track sent latest keeps the delay when it crosses. A track that has not reached the restart stays on the previous generation while its frames land there. While a generation is acquired, a track that reaches the new timeline without a marker of its own (its frame would be held more than a delay past everything queued) joins it. Generations go out in turn.
    • Acquire before release. At the start and at each new generation, nothing goes out until every audio, video, DVB AC-3 and teletext track has delivered (two delays at most; sparse tracks such as SCTE-35, subtitles and ID3 are not waited for) and a track starts its next group, or one of the held frames falls due. Each track's freshest frame (read least behind its decode time) shows how far ahead the source sends it, and the clock is anchored on the track sent latest, so it keeps the delay and every other track has more. A broadcast TS sends video up to a second ahead and audio just in time; anchoring on the globally freshest frame (the video) left the audio no time. What the anchor makes due before it was read (the part of a joined group older than the delay) is dropped without counting as late; video resumes at its next keyframe.
    • Clock recovery (release-clock-recovery.md). Each 2 s of decode time gives a floor: per track, the most slack any frame arrived with, which queueing and retransmission only lower; the step's floor is the least of those, the track sent latest. The upper envelope of the floors over 10 minutes gives the source's rate and the slack now, so a spell of queueing shorter than 5 minutes moves neither. The clock runs at that rate and pulls the slack back to the delay, within what ISO/IEC 13818-1 2.4.2.1 allows a system clock: 810 Hz of 27 MHz (30 ppm) off ours, changing by at most 0.075 Hz/s. A source past 30 ppm is counted in Export::stats, and fails the export once it has used half the delay.
  • Join and skips: the export's video and audio subscriptions start at the newest group (max_age zero), then widen to half the delay. Since fix(mux): skip a blocked group by its reach, not its first frame #4652 a stalled group is skipped once the next group's start falls the budget behind the newest content, and the next group's frames are read only then; with the whole delay as the budget they would arrive at their deadline (t0ms's a_skip_while_running_keeps_one_clock dropped 15 frames after merging main). Half the delay leaves the other half for the group after the skip.
  • DTS (DecodeClock): the n-th frame in decode order decodes at the n-th presentation time, a reorder delay early. The delay is a time (the least that keeps DTS at or before PTS, or the SPS's declared depth), so field and frame coding keep their own spacing. On the Kyrion 1080i capture the authored DTS equals the encoder's, frame for frame.
  • Schedule (ts/schedule.rs): per-PID earliest-deadline-first admission. Each slot's packets go earliest deadline first, each PID in its own order, each unit as soon as its PID's receiver buffers admit it and up to the delay ahead of its DTS:
    • no more packets per 25 ms slot than the PID's transport buffer passes on (Rx, or Rbx for video);
    • no more bytes than its decoder buffer holds until the units in it decode. Video EB comes from the SPS NAL HRD (cpb_size, bit_rate), else the level's MaxCPB; audio B from 13818-1 per codec. Program tables ride ahead of the unit they lead, at Rxsys.
    • With a mux rate, a unit incomplete at its due slot fails the export. Without one, it goes out whole there.
    • Once every source has ended, a unit past its deadline goes out whatever its decoder buffer holds, so a last unit bigger than the buffer cannot hold the stream open on clock packets.
    • How many packets a slot carries and the PCR it opens with are functions of the slot alone.
  • PCR: the time of the slot's first byte at the mux rate, so every PCR sits at its byte position (TSDuck pcrverify: 0 of 645 over ±500 ns, against 858 of 858 before).
  • AC-3 passthrough: a DVB AC-3 private-data PES of several sync frames goes out one sync frame per PES, each due at its own decode time. A cut sync frame is dropped.
  • Teletext passthrough: the schedule drains a DVB teletext PID at EN 300 472's 6.75 Mb/s.
  • End of stream: once every source has ended, a unit that misses its deadline goes out late instead of failing the export.
  • Stats: ts::stats::Export (refactor(moq-mux)!: move the TS stats types into ts::stats #4909) gains dropped, drift and out_of_tolerance beside main's per-stream rows (feat(mux): report each TS elementary stream's access units at export #4577, ported onto the slot schedule: a unit counts once the slot carrying its first packet is returned). moq export ts logs the release counters when they move and when the export ends (t0ms's ask).
  • CLI: moq export ts writes each slice as the export hands it over; its pacer is gone, since it would have fought the drift steering. --delay (default 500 ms) is unchanged.
  • Harness: just test ts --hrd encodes t0ms's recipe (1080p, 9 Mbit NAL HRD); CI runs it under the strict gate at the default delay. --delay passes the exporter's. With the rate known, pcrverify gates PCR accuracy at ±500 ns. pcr-timing.py --live gains a hard pcr-rate check (30 ppm). compliance.py grades teletext's 480-byte transport buffer, with a tstd-controls.py case.

Deleted:

  • jitter: the per-generation anchor map and rejoin, the 500 ppm proportional drift controller, anchoring on the first frame, and anchoring on the globally freshest frame
  • schedule: the as-late-as-possible floor (needed), the push-order pull-down of earlier units' due slots, the rate credit, the mid-stream grace overrun
  • export: the count-based DecodeClock window and Reserve, pcr_at, slot_ticks, the video_rate/audio_rate/drain helpers, frame-driven slot laying when there is a delay
  • CLI: Delivery, its pacer, and its four tests
  • earlier in this PR: the hold/stall code, the span/watermark/stuffing machinery, the reserve back-off in the PCR

Decisions

Settled under /quest-iterate with the maintainer away, taking the recommended option each time:

  • Late-track anchor (t0ms, 2026-10-02):
    • ✅ Take t0ms's fix (anchor and steer on the track sent latest, wait to hear from every track for two delays at most), but wait only for audio, video, DVB AC-3 and teletext tracks (recommended: a silent SCTE-35, subtitle or ID3 PID would hold every join, and burst its backlog, for the full two delays).
    • Take it as is, waiting for every track.
    • Anchor on the globally freshest frame and rely on steering (rejected: at 0.075 Hz/s a 100 ms deficit takes hours).
  • 1+1 transpositions (t0ms, 2026-10-06):
    • ✅ Release ties in decode order at the jitter buffer (recommended: fixes the cause a stage earlier, so the schedule's push order is already the media's).
    • Lay each slot out in (due, PID) order in the schedule.
  • Late-join 1+1 identity in scope:
    • ✅ The transpositions, here (above); the constant per-PID continuity-counter offset stays with quest/m2/ts-hitless.md (recommended: counters derived from the media are their own wire-visible change).
  • Re-acquisition after a restart (Grok on fe7cec10, maintainer 2026-10-07):
    • ✅ The fuller fix: carry each track's lead over from the previous generation, so a track that crosses after the new clock is set keeps the delay, and keep a lagging track on the previous generation until it crosses.
    • Only let a track without a marker join the acquisition while it lasts (the first fix; kept, since the leads do not cover frames arriving during the acquisition window).
  • Skip budget after merging main's reach-based skip (fix(mux): skip a blocked group by its reach, not its first frame #4652):
    • ✅ Half the delay (recommended: the group after a skip keeps the other half; simple, no new knob).
    • The whole delay less a frame period (rejected: the period is not known up front).
  • Stats naming:
  • A failing live export (Grok, t0ms "Is the exit intended?"):
    • ✅ Keep failing loud on a missed decode deadline at a mux rate and on a source past 30 ppm (recommended: supported or refused; the send-ahead quest raises the default to 1 s and names the --delay a source needs).
    • Drop the unit and carry on.
  • Timestamp-reset audio alignment (review P1):
    • ✅ No change (recommended: since fix(mux): include timestamp rewind boundary details #4725 a broadcast's timestamps never go backwards, the producer refuses and the consumer aborts, so a reset to zero now fails the export before alignment runs; a_timeline_restarting_at_zero_fails_the_export pins it, which is also the audit's backwards-time check).
  • EOF progress (review P2):
    • ✅ A past-due unit at end of stream ignores its decoder buffer (recommended: it is late already; guarantees the stream ends).
    • Refuse an oversized unit at push.

T-STD (just test ts, strict tstd and pcrverify, release build, clean path, default 500 ms delay)

Measured on the previous head (559a35244), before the merge:

Run Video Audio pcr-schedule pcrverify ±500 ns
generated, 10 Mb/s pass: TB 0%, MB 2%, EB 3% pass: TB 29%, B 88% 755/755 0 of 640 over
--hrd (t0ms's hrd9m recipe) pass: TB 53%, EB 59% (video only) 754/754 0 of 690 over
open GOP pass: TB 0%, MB 2%, EB 3% pass: TB 29%, B 88% 0 of 640 over

t0ms's CNN capture (PAFF H.264, MP2, DVB AC-3, teletext, SCTE-35) on 559a35244 plus the anchor fix: every track, 0 late drops, compliance.py PASS at 500 ms, 750 ms and 1 s on loopback, across hosts at 500 ms and 1 s, and on the #4613 rig at 0 % and 1 % loss; a 540 s loopback run at 1 s held the PCR to the source within 0.6 ppm. Still failing: a 540 s run at 500 ms misses a video deadline about 157 s in (the schedule at 500 ms on that passage; the send-ahead quest's 1 s default), and 10 % loss at 1 s stops at 25 s on a teletext deadline. A re-grade on this merged head is owed.

Impact

  • Public API (moq-mux): ts::Export::with_max_age is replaced by with_delay(Duration) (breaking; moq-mux 0.10.9 is published). ts::stats::Export gains dropped, drift (ppm) and out_of_tolerance, and loses Eq. New pub(crate) codec helpers: h264::sps_hrd, h265::sps_hrd, video::Hrd.
  • ts::Export output:
    • each frame muxed its delay after its DTS on a clock that follows the source's, anchored on the track the source sends latest; each 25 ms slice handed over when that clock reaches it
    • packets admitted per PID against the T-STD buffers, up to the delay ahead of DTS; output trails the source by up to twice the delay (also without a mux rate)
    • PCR at the byte position with a mux rate; packets per slot, PCR, and the order within a slot are functions of the media
    • video DTS authored in time (equals the encoder's for a constant reorder delay)
    • multi-frame DVB AC-3 PES split one sync frame per PES
    • a unit that cannot arrive by its DTS at the rate fails the export
    • the PCR clock stays within 30 ppm of ours and slews at most 0.075 Hz/s; a source further off is counted, then fails the export
    • video and audio join at the newest group, nothing goes out until the clock is acquired, and a stalled group is skipped at half the delay
    • a cut AC-3 sync frame is dropped; the end of the stream is not a missed deadline
  • moq export ts: --delay replaces --max-age/--latency-max (refused with a migration note). The other export formats keep main's --max-delay. Slices are written as they come; --delay 0 writes them in arrival order unpaced. Logs the release clock's drops and drift.
  • moq_srt::ts::Subscriber::new(.., latency): the latency is the jitter-buffer delay. An SRT receiver buffers about twice the latency; accepted.
  • MoQ wire: none.

Known consequence

Late frames are still dropped strictly, but drift within 30 ppm no longer causes them. A source that stalls longer than the delay, with no group skip to re-anchor on, produces nothing until a discontinuity.

Anchoring on the track sent latest costs the other tracks' send-ahead as latency: on CNN presentation is twice the delay plus about 275 ms, against twice the delay less about a second for the video alone on the old anchor (which lost the audio). The send-ahead quest's carve-out brings that back down.

At exactly 30 ppm the slew-limited clock settles 162 ms off the delay and holds there, losing no frame; ±25 ppm holds within 10 ms.

Merge prep (ed6dd465a)

  • Merged main: refactor(moq-mux)!: move the TS stats types into ts::stats #4909 (ts::stats), feat!: name subscriber staleness max_delay; publisher retention keeps max_age #4917 (max_delay), the 2026-10-06 audit. Deleted quests left by them (subscriber-max-delay.md, ts-stats-module.md) and unblocked quest/m2/ts-eac3.md and quest/m2/tstd-controls.md. t0ms's commits are untouched.
  • Re-acquisition (CodeRabbit major, Grok findings 1 and 3): fixed as above. a_track_without_the_restart_joins_the_acquisition covers a track joining during the acquisition, and a_track_crossing_after_the_new_clock_keeps_its_lead covers one crossing after it (audio sent three delays behind). Each fails without its fix.
  • Sparse PES held joins (Grok finding 2): fixed as above.
  • Local: just test ts, --hrd, --open-gop, --bitrate 2000000 and ts-tstd passed strict on d7323b085 (pcrverify 0 of 644 PCRs over ±500 ns); ts, --hrd and ts-tstd again on ed6dd465a. just check passes apart from the moq-uring tests, which need more RLIMIT_MEMLOCK than the local host allows.
  • Interop on fe7cec106 failed at max_age_relay_javascript ("Optional publisher retention"), which failed the same way on main at b8b0d235a, so not this PR's.

Follow-ups

  • Re-grade the CNN capture, the moq export ts loses most of the feed under random packet loss since #4001 #4613 rig (10 % loss) and the 1+1 pair on this merged head (t0ms; stays a follow-up, maintainer 2026-10-07).
  • moq export ts --linger: an export failure while the broadcast is still live reads as the broadcast ending, and waits out the linger; tell the two apart (t0ms offered the CLI side).
  • 1+1 (ST 2022-7) continuity counters, quest/m2/ts-hitless.md.
  • Teletext's B buffer (EN 300 472) is not modelled; only its transport buffer.
  • E-AC-3 as DVB private data is passed through unsplit with no buffer model.

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ts::Export::with_delay replaces with_max_age: every frame is muxed a fixed delay after its decode time, anchored at the first frame's arrival, in (DTS, PID) order across tracks. A frame that arrives past its deadline is dropped and counted. The stall/hold interleave is deleted. moq export ts takes --delay in place of --max-age.

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The release stage hands frames over in decode order, so the mux measures its spans and the decode bound on the same clock. The PCR runs one slot behind its grid boundary instead of backing off by the largest DTS reserve, which removes the clock rewinds a growing reserve caused. A frame's arrival is the last instant its source was found empty, so a caller that polls late does not make it late.

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Status: draft, based on the questline (quest/m1/tstd/README) rather than dev. A trial rebase of these commits onto origin/dev conflicted in ts/export.rs, export_test.rs, moq-cli/src/args.rs and the quest tree, because dev is 138 commits behind main, including #4618. Once dev has merged main, the retarget should be mechanical.

Open for the maintainer, with recommendations in the description:

  1. Name and module of the release stage (now crate-private moq_mux::release::Release).
  2. Whether a backlogged or finished source is paced by the release (as implemented) or left to Delivery.

Strict tstd (harness from #4643): video passes, audio AAC fails on TB overflow only (x170, peak 147%). That remainder is packet scheduling, which belongs to the byte-schedule quest.

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The decode clock hands presentation times out in display order a reorder depth late, like ffmpeg's pts_buffer, instead of nudging each B-frame one tick past its reference.

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A new ts::Schedule packs each access unit onto the PCR grid. With a multiplex rate every slot carries what the rate allows, padded with nulls, and a unit goes out as late as the rate lets it while still arriving by its DTS, spreading a keyframe over the slots before it, back as far as the delay. A burst that does not fit fails the export. Within a slot each PID's packets spread among the others and the nulls. Continuity counters are numbered as packets go out, which deletes the span counters, counter_before, and the stuffing balance.

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…er alone

run.sh gates pcr-schedule at 99% whenever the generated clip's rate is known, grading from the first null packet, and CI adds a 2 Mb/s run whose keyframes outgrow a PCR slot. The export now releases at the source's pace, so the CLI's Delivery shrinks to the pacer. Folds in the byte-schedule quest.

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A source that falls behind the delay and stays there would lose every frame after the stall. A keyframe or audio frame past its deadline now re-anchors its generation on itself, pausing the output for the stall.

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@kixelated kixelated changed the title feat(moq-mux)!: release TS export frames on a fixed delay feat(moq-mux)!: fixed-delay jitter buffer and constant-rate schedule for TS export Oct 1, 2026
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Reverts the re-buffer on a late keyframe or audio frame. A frame that misses its deadline is dropped and counted, and video waits for its next keyframe. A source that falls permanently behind the delay produces nothing.

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# Conflicts:
#	quest/m1/tstd/README.md
#	quest/m1/tstd/check.md
#	quest/m1/tstd/delay.md
#	test/ts/README.md
#	test/ts/pcr-timing.py
A unit's last packet still drains through the receiver's transport and multiplex buffers, no slower than 2 Mb/s, so a unit whose DTS sat on a slot boundary was graded up to 0.1 ms late.

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dev's importers publish the source's own timestamps, so a 25 fps source starting at 1.4 s puts every fifth DTS on a 25 ms PCR slot boundary. An unpadded slot times its last packet up to that boundary, and the T-STD model grades the frame 0.09 ms late while the packet drains from MB to EB. Replaces the 1 ms constant with one packet at the stream's slowest T-STD rate: the level's Rbx for H.264/H.265, the transport buffer's Rx for audio.

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Reviewed 4b7158d.

  1. [P1] Preserve all audio after a timestamp-reset discontinuity (rs/moq-mux/src/container/ts/export.rs:992–1004). fill now drains a track before the jitter buffer releases anything. With an existing video_start of 5 s and a restarted audio batch at 0, 20, 40 ms, only the first frame bypasses tune-in alignment: Track::queue immediately updates track.discontinuity, so the remaining frames compare equal and are discarded against the old 5 s start. rewind clears that start only later, when a new-generation frame is released. Make tune-in alignment generation-aware (or retire the old alignment when the input crosses the boundary), and add a reset-with-multiple-buffered-audio-frames regression. These are on-time frames and the loss is not the documented strict-lateness behavior.

  2. [P2] Include fractional future slot credit in the feasibility calculation (rs/moq-mux/src/container/ts/schedule.rs:253–258, 310–316). needed(index, rate / PACKET) floors every future slot independently, although emission carries the remainder. For example, a fresh schedule with a 100 ms window, rate 2,376,320 b/s (39.5 packets/slot), and a 192-packet unit due at 1 s has five legal media capacities of 38, 39, 38, 39, 38 packets. It fits exactly, but needed demands 40 packets in the first slot and fails the export. Compute remaining capacity from the carried credit over the complete span; cover a fractional-rate, near-capacity burst in tests.

Direction: separating the shared jitter buffer from TS scheduling and numbering continuity counters at emission is a sensible simplification. The boundary state and fractional-rate accounting need tightening before relying on the new hard compliance gate; the documented permanent-drop behavior and outstanding loss/netem validation remain important operational caveats.

Verification: inspected the diff and relevant surrounding code; independently checked the fractional-credit example with Python arithmetic. Rust tests and netem were not run (no Rust toolchain in this review environment). Check, Interop, and Platform were still queued for this SHA; Android had passed.

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Review (head 4b7158d6c00dab0ca64f9554befeac87e015dd5f)

Ready-for-review after a prior draft skip on this same SHA. Replaces stall/hold + span stuffing with a fixed-delay jitter buffer (jitter::Buffer) and constant-rate PCR-grid schedule (Schedule), plus the one-packet T-STD finish margin. Breaking: with_max_age → with_delay on published moq-mux. Tip CI: Windows/Android green; Check/Test/Interop/macOS still queued at review time.

Blocking

  1. Export can mux a stale jitter generation after rewind() — Export::poll_next adopts ready.generation > self.generation by flushing the schedule (via held) then rewind(), but jitter::Buffer can still release earlier generations afterward. That order is intentional in a_discontinuity_re_anchors (v0 gen1 before a6000 gen0). After rewind, the gen0 frame is muxed with no generation < self.generation guard, so old-timeline media lands on the post-discontinuity PCR/continuity stream. Fix options: hold higher-generation readies until the buffer has no lower-generation frames left; drop Ready.generation < self.generation after rewind; or change the buffer so a newer generation never becomes due while an older one is still queued.

Non-blocking

  1. Strict late-drop starvation (documented) — a source that stays behind --delay without a group skip / re-anchor produces nothing from then on. Known consequence in the PR body; catalog-advertised delay is the named follow-up.

  2. Open-GOP dts-before-pts at tune-in — also called out in the PR; shape warning, not a merge blocker for this change.

No other concrete bugs jumped out in the finish-margin/drain path, PCR one-slot-behind, schedule window/grace overrun, or CLI --delay migration.

Verdict: ITERATE

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Thanks for picking this up. A few things from our side that bear on it, split into what we have measured and what is reasoned.

We'll grade this branch on a real broadcast clip. The questline's proof (the #4613 rig: 10 % loss, a real ~10 Mb/s broadcast TS) is ours to run. The clip is H.264 High with MPEG-1 L2 and AC-3 audio plus teletext, CBR at about 10 Mb/s, with keyframes that outgrow a 25 ms slot many times over. We'll run it clean on loopback first, then under the loss rig, then across hosts, graded by compliance.py and by our own T-STD model, which we're cross-checking against yours.

Measured on ffa5b81b (before this branch), loopback, one clip (write-up):

  • A causal, live remux of the export's output passes every T-STD buffer and P1/P2 over 270 s. So the target is reachable from what a subscriber has.
  • The send-ahead it needs is set by the encoder's VBV schedule, which the demuxed lane doesn't carry. Each video frame reached the remux at its own decode time; rebuilding the pre-load through the 10.56 Mb/s video TB needed 515–627 ms of lead depending on the drain rate, and 600 ms passed. On feat(moq-mux): schedule TS export bytes on the mux rate #4579 the same clip's bursts wanted 0.7–0.9 s. A 500 ms --delay that has to cover both network jitter and this send-ahead will fail loud on content like this, so the default, or the burst idea from quest(tstd): plan catalog burst for TS send-ahead #4649, matters more than the generated clip suggests.
  • The lane's delay wasn't constant at start-up: arrivals got later by about 630 ms over the first ~50 s after subscribe, then held flat. A release anchored at the first frame's arrival would have dropped frames through that period. This branch removes the hold that may have caused it, so we'll check whether it persists.

Reasoned, not measured.

  • Clock drift with strict late-drop. On one host the publisher and subscriber share a clock, so drift is invisible in every loopback test, ours included. Across hosts the source clock may differ by up to ±30 ppm (13818-1's tolerance on the 27 MHz system clock), about 108 ms per hour. In one direction that eats the delay margin, and with strict drop and no re-anchor the export then stops producing (the known consequence in the description): with 500 ms of margin, in under five hours at the full tolerance. In the other direction the buffer grows without bound. For a permanent service that makes drift tracking a requirement rather than an optimisation. We can measure it with a 24 h cross-host run, or on one host by pacing a source on a deliberately scaled clock.
  • 1+1 determinism. Anchoring the release at each exporter's first local arrival means two legs that joined at different moments emit the same packet order but different PCR values and byte positions, so they aren't packet-identical, which ST 2022-7 merging needs. Deriving the anchor and the PCR from the stream (for example, PCR taken from the decode timeline at a fixed lead, which is what our remux does) would make two legs identical whenever both are inside their deadlines.
  • SRT egress doubling. Passing the SRT latency as the export delay makes an SRT receiver buffer about twice the latency. Fine as a start, but probably worth its own knob.

Happy to turn any of these into tests against ts::Export with mocked time if that's useful.

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Measured on 4b7158d6c00d, release build, loopback on one Mac, one run per cell. The export's own
pacing goes straight to the capture with nothing re-clocking it.

1. On a real broadcast capture the export stops within seconds, at every delay we tried. The
clip is a ~10 Mb/s CBR DVB service: H.264 High@4.0 1080i25 with B-frames, MPEG-1 L2, AC-3,
teletext, three SCTE-35 PIDs and SI. Your harness reproduces it at the defaults:

TSC_PROFILE=release just test ts --source <capture>.ts --duration 60

At 500 ms, MP2 and verbatim frames start missing their deadlines about 1 s in, and 2.7 s in it
exits with MPEG-TS output needs 352 packets in a 25ms slot, more than 9945951 b/s allows within the delay. The same overrun happens at --delay 1, 2 and 3 s, at --mux-rate 11000000, with the
export subscribed before the publisher, and with the clip stripped to its video alone. A longer
delay only postpones it, from about 2 s of output at 500 ms to about 11 s at 3 s. In the runs long
enough to see it, the PCR advances in clean 25 ms steps while the PTS carried advances 13–29 %
slower, so the schedule is starved of frames rather than overfull, though the source is fed in real
time. We haven't located where the frames are held. The clip differs from the passing case below
in being interlaced and in its GOP, and we haven't isolated either.

2. With a generated clip, the 500 ms default cannot start a stream whose CPB is broadcast-sized.
This one is shareable, and it passes compliance.py as a source (EB peak 76 %, worst delay 0.7 s):

ffmpeg -f lavfi -i "testsrc2=size=1920x1080:rate=25,noise=alls=12:allf=t" -t 65 -an \
  -c:v libx264 -profile:v high -level 4.0 -preset veryfast -pix_fmt yuv420p \
  -x264-params "keyint=25:min-keyint=25:scenecut=0:nal-hrd=cbr" -b:v 9M -maxrate 9M -bufsize 9M \
  -f mpegts -muxrate 10000000 -pcr_period 20 -pes_payload_size 0 hrd9m.ts
TSC_PROFILE=release just test ts --source hrd9m.ts --duration 60

At the default it exits after 2.2 s of output (needs 279 packets). At --delay 2s it runs the
whole capture, and both your strict check and our independent T-STD model pass it, with EB peaking
at 39 %. The audio is dropped only because FFmpeg's muxer at this video rate fails the audio buffer
of its own output. The harness's own clip loads the buffers to 1–2 %, which is why CI can't see
this. A fixture like this one, gated at the default delay, would.

3. Where it runs, nearly every PCR misses the ±500 ns accuracy limit. In that 2 s run, the PCRs fall
166 or 167 packets apart. Fitting PCR value against packet index after start-up gives exactly the
padded 9,999,999 b/s, with residuals of median 38 µs and maximum 75 µs: 1,868 of 1,880 PCRs are
outside ±0.5 µs. The value is the slot's time, and the PCR packet's byte position is that time
rounded to a whole packet. pcr-schedule allows one packet, so it passes, but an IRD or a TR 101
290 probe reads this as PCR_accuracy_error on nearly every PCR. Stamping each PCR from its own byte
position at the mux rate should remove it, though we haven't tried it.

4. Latency. At --delay 2s on that clip, delivery latency (the source's picture leaving to the
same picture arriving) is 6.83 s median on loopback, steady over 55 s. That is about 2 s more than
two delays plus the send-ahead.

Not run yet: the loss rig and cross-host, which wait on point 1.

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A correction to point 1 of my measurements: the schedule isn't starved, it's overfull. I read a short PTS
span in the failing captures as a slow release. It was the join's first-group hole plus the
window still queued at the exit.

What happens. Schedule sends each unit as late as the rate allows and sees one window ahead.
The slots it pads before a heavy stretch can't be spent later, so a stretch whose decode timeline
outruns the rate for about a window can't be met, though the average load fits. The CNN
clip switches between frame and field coding (PAFF), and its field-coded passages run up to ~3,600
packets in 0.26 s. Its video never exceeds 150 packets per slot over any 3 s on the source wire,
against the 156 the schedule allows itself. The source carries those passages by sending up to
0.97 s ahead, with EB at 96 % of its CpbSize.

Replayed. We ported the slot rule and DecodeClock::author to Python and replayed them on the
clip's video alone, at the 9,501,512 b/s it was padded to
(script).
The DTS port matches a capture's PTS − DTS on 229 of 229 frames.

--delay as late as possible, source DTS as late as possible, authored DTS earliest deadline first, EB-limited
1 s stops stops fits
2 s stops stops fits
3 s stops stops fits
5 s fits stops at 17.57 s of DTS fits
8 s fits fits fits

It predicted the next two runs of the real export: at --delay 5s it stopped with 17.60 s of
DTS out ("needs 366 packets"), and at --delay 8s it ran the capture. Our T-STD model passed
that output, with EB peaking at 48 %. We didn't run compliance.py on it.

Two contributing causes, and what might address them:

  1. The send policy. Sending earliest deadline first, as soon as the receiver's EB has room
    (its size from the SPS HRD, or the level's default), fits the same clip from 1 s, with EB up to
    100 % and never over it. It keeps the decode deadline and the rate, and replaces "as empty as
    possible" with "never overflowing", which is the T-STD's own condition. This is shown only in
    the replay, and only on the video; we haven't built it.
  2. The authored DTS. DecodeClock holds back reserve / period pictures, a fixed count. In
    field coding each field is its own frame, 20 ms apart, so the same count is half the time: the
    authored DTS runs 0.28 s ahead of the source's in frame-coded passages and 0.08 s in
    field-coded ones, and each switch squeezes the decode timeline. At start-up the first GOP's
    seven leading pictures get DTS one tick apart. On the source's DTS the current policy fits at
    5 s; on the authored DTS it needs 8 s. Holding back a fixed time rather than a count, or
    carrying the importer's DTS when it has one, would remove this. That is reasoned, not tested.

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Following up with a build. I patched Schedule::next on 4b7158d6c00d, as a scratch experiment.
It keeps the existing floor (needed), then spends the rest of each slot's allowance on queued
video units, in order, while the receiver's EB has room. The EB size is passed in by environment
variable for now. A unit's bytes leave the buffer once the slot after its due slot is past. Audio
and tables stay on the floor. Graded with our T-STD model, skipping 5 s:

CNN, full multiplex runs video EB MP2 B AC-3 TB / B
PR head, --delay 8s yes pass (peak 47 %) peak 10,904 of 3,584 B 2,495 packets over / peak 16,896 of 5,696 B
patched, --delay 1s yes pass (peak 99.7 %, 26/26 windows) pass 4,196 packets over / peak 6,912 of 5,696 B

So filling video early within its EB fixes the overrun at 1 s. Separately, the audio buffers fail
whenever the export runs this clip, patched or not. My reading of the code, consistent with audio
residences of up to 0.68 s, is that there are two causes:

  • A unit's packets go out back to back, and AC-3's TB drains at 2 Mb/s.
  • The floor is filled in push order, so audio queued ahead of a heavy video unit goes out early.

Admitting each PID's packets against its own TB and B, per packet, would address both. That is
what our offline and live remultiplexers do, and they pass this clip's audio. I haven't built
that here, and haven't run the patch at 500 ms or with compliance.py.

The diff is 77 lines. I can push it as a branch if useful, but it isn't PR quality: the EB size
should come from the SPS HRD or the level.

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Grok follow-up review of head e6d9c222 (re-review after push; the last review was ITERATE on fe7cec10)

Since fe7cec10 there's a merge of main (e4beb006, nothing PR-side) and one commit of the PR's own (e6d9c222). While a generation is being acquired, a track's frame that would sit more than a delay past everything queued now joins the acquisition (jitter.rs jumps, lines 316-317). The export also only waits on audio, video, and the Verbatim PIDs the schedule models (export.rs lines 1314-1317). CI on this head is still pending.

Earlier findings

  1. Single-track re-acquisition anchor: fixed for the case I described. A track that didn't skip now leaps into the acquisition once its frame is ahead of the old clock. I checked the thresholds: once the opener is held the horizon stops growing, so a lagging track's new-timeline frame clears bound() at the same jump size (more than a delay) that made the opener leap. That means there's no gap in the middle where only one of them joins. a_track_without_the_restart_joins_the_acquisition pins the restart-opened version with audio sent DELAY + 50 ms behind, and asserts no drops.
  2. Sparse PES tracks waited on: fixed. Only Verbatim tracks with a modeled buffer count now: stream type 0x06 PES with an AC-3 or teletext descriptor (verbatim_buffer, line 2354). Subtitles, KLV and ID3 no longer hold a join for two delays. The cli.md text matches.
  3. Restart where the lagging track crosses later, at LONG_LAG: still only covered at the jitter level with a 100 ms delay. Non-blocking.
  4. Validation on the merged head: still owed, per the PR body.

New findings

  1. Non-blocking, but a real way to turn this new rule against itself: a track sent far ahead can join the acquisition with an old-timeline frame and then become the anchor (jitter.rs lines 316-317 with Acquire::fresh, lines 163-176). The new self.acquire.is_some() condition doesn't check which timeline the frame is on. It only checks that the frame lands more than a delay past the horizon. A PES track whose PTS runs well ahead of its arrival (DVB subtitles or timed metadata sent more than about L + delay early, where L is the video's send lead) passes that test with a frame that is still on the old timeline. fresh() then picks the frame with the largest read - decode. An old-timeline frame's decode time is lower by the jump J, so it wins, and the new clock anchors on it. Every new-timeline frame then gets a deadline about J minus that track's lead later than intended. With the 5 s jump in the test, that's seconds of extra hold. With a restart that moves the timeline by minutes or hours, output effectively stops until steering (600 s response) catches up. Before this commit, such a frame queued normally on the old clock. Two possible fixes:

    • Only let a frame join under the acquisition-wide rule when its decode time is at or past the acquisition's earliest held decode, less a delay. Otherwise it queues on the old clock as before.
    • Have fresh() consider only expected tracks when choosing the anchor, since sparse tracks were just excluded from the wait for the same reason.

    A test with a third, sparse track sending one far-ahead old-timeline frame during the acquisition would pin it.

  2. Non-blocking: the skip-opened path (video leaps after a shed group, no restart counter) now reaches the same acquire.is_some() branch for audio, but no test drives it. The existing leap test is single-track. A two-track version of a_skip_that_leaps_ahead_opens_a_generation, with audio lagging past the delay, would cover the moq export ts loses most of the feed under random packet loss since #4001 #4613 rig case directly.

Verdict: ITERATE. Both findings from the last round are addressed. What's left is the far-ahead-track anchor guard (small), letting CI finish, and the owed re-grade on this head. Reviewed head e6d9c2226adc75814c55e6fd1edc50fe37f08944.

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Grok follow-up review of head d7323b08 (re-review after push; the last review was ITERATE on fe7cec10)

Since fe7cec10 the PR has a merge of main (e4beb006) plus two commits of its own: e6d9c222 lets a track join the generation being acquired, and narrows which tracks a join waits on, and d7323b08 is an upgrade-doc fix. The merge only reconciles with #4909 (ts::stats) and #4917 (max_delay): export ts keeps --delay, with --max-age and --latency-max refused and pointing at it. Export gains the release counters, and moq subscribe still logs them itself, since Log reads an export through From<Export> for Snapshot. Two quest files that main had made stale are gone. I found nothing wrong in the merge. CI on this head is still queued.

Earlier findings

  1. A re-acquisition opened by one track waited two delays and anchored on that track alone: fixed. While an acquisition is open, jumps() (jitter.rs line 316) now moves any track whose frame lands more than a delay past bound() into it, not only one whose skip counter changed. So the lagging track is heard, fresh() can anchor on it, and the wait ends early. a_track_without_the_restart_joins_the_acquisition pins it (lag of DELAY + 50 ms, no drops). A lag past two delays still loses the late track, the same bound as at join, which is documented.
  2. Sparse PES tracks were waited on: fixed. export.rs lines 1314-1318 now wait only on non-verbatim kinds plus verbatim PIDs with a modeled buffer. verbatim_buffer returns one only for DVB AC-3 and teletext, so subtitles, KLV and ID3 no longer hold a join, and cli.md matches. The other half is still open, but narrower: the unheard branch of ends() (line 573) still skips Acquire::end's falls-due cap. A join where an announced AC-3 or teletext PID is silent still waits two delays and then releases what fell due in one burst.
  3. A restart where the lagging track crosses after the acquisition ended: still untested, now listed as a follow-up in the PR body. That's fine.

New findings

No blocking issues.

  1. Non-blocking: the new join test can't tell a jump from a gap (jitter.rs line 316, with fresh() at lines 163-176). While acquiring, any frame due more than a delay past bound() on the old clock joins. That includes an old-timeline frame after a decode-time gap longer than a delay on a track that never crossed, for example an encoder frame drop or a slideshow-rate video during the up-to-two-delay window. Once it joins, that track counts as heard. Its freshest frame is the most behind of all (its decode time is the jump earlier than the new timeline's), so fresh() anchors on it, and every new-generation frame is held about the size of the jump longer. It's rare, and before this push the same frame was held far ahead on the old clock instead, so it doesn't block. A cheap guard would be to accept a frame into the acquisition only if it also roughly lands on the timeline the acquisition is building: for example, its decode time within a couple of delays of what the held frames predict for its read time.
  2. Non-blocking: the new test opens the generation with a restart. Finding 1 was about a skip that leaps ahead, which reaches the same branch through track.skip != arrival.skip. A one-line variant using a skip, or the export-level LONG_LAG case, would pin the path the moq export ts loses most of the feed under random packet loss since #4001 #4613 rig hits.

The doc edits in d7323b08 match the code: ts::stats::Export derives PartialEq but not Eq, since drift is an f64, and it carries the three counters.

Verdict: MERGE once CI is green. The owed re-grade on the merged head (CNN capture, the #4613 rig at 10% loss, the 1+1 pair) is the remaining risk, and the PR body tracks it as a follow-up. Reviewed head d7323b085dba610d547c37c39d9d2d2477ab53ca.

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Reviewed commit: d7323b0

The re-acquisition fix addresses the existing cross-track stall: rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs:315–317 lets a forward off-clock frame join an active acquisition even without its own marker. Unlike the broader !lands suggestion, merely late old-clock frames still stay out. The non-replay regression at :893–921 checks shared generation, release timing and zero drops. container/ts/export.rs:1311–1318 also stops waiting for unmodeled sparse PES tracks; the upgrade note now matches the stats API.

No additional distinct defect established. The already-reported old-timeline forward-frame concern remains worth a targeted regression: jumps() tests only the old-clock deadline, while Acquire::fresh (:163–176) chooses among every held track. Excluding sparse tracks from expect() alone does not exclude one that delivers from anchor selection. Test a sparse old-timeline frame during a forward-jump acquisition and a skip-opened two-track acquisition; keep any resulting guard narrow enough not to reintroduce the fixed lagging-track stall. No duplicate inline thread.

Direction: a meaningful improvement over the previous head. Existing capture/loss/1+1 re-grade obligations remain; this update does not establish those operational outcomes.

Verification: GitHub-only static owned-commit delta, jitter state transitions, tests and review discussion; main merge accounted for. No Rust, netem, T-STD or capture execution. Open state, exact head and prior reviews rechecked.

How far ahead of its decode time a source sends each track belongs to its
mux, so the steering steps record each track's slack against the others.
A re-acquisition no longer waits to hear from a track with a known lead,
and anchors late enough that the track sent latest keeps the delay when it
crosses. A track that has not reached the restart stays on the previous
generation while its frames land there, instead of going late on the new
clock.

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Pushed ed6dd465a for the maintainer's 2026-10-07 decision (✅ fuller fix): each steering step records every track's lead over the others. A new generation then anchors late enough that the track sent latest keeps the delay when it crosses, without waiting to hear from it. A track that has not reached the restart stays on the previous generation until it crosses. a_track_crossing_after_the_new_clock_keeps_its_lead (audio three delays behind, crossing after the new clock is set) fails without it. The narrower rule from e6d9c2226 stays: it covers a track reaching the new timeline during the acquisition window, which the leads don't. t0ms's re-grade stays a follow-up.

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The push is one commit (ed6dd465, jitter.rs and cli.md). Each track's slack from the last steering step is now kept in leads. A re-acquisition counts a track with a lead as heard, so it no longer waits for it. The new clock is anchored later by the lead gap to the latest-sent unheard track (unheard_lag). A track that hasn't reached the restart stays on the previous generation's clock (previous, lagging()) instead of going late on the new one. CI on this head is still pending.

Earlier findings

  • A lagging track that crosses after the acquisition ended: fixed and tested. a_track_crossing_after_the_new_clock_keeps_its_lead (lag of 3x the delay) loses nothing and opens no third generation.
  • A silent AC-3 or teletext PID holding a join for two delays: partly fixed. A PID with a lead from an earlier step now counts as heard. One that has never sent anything still waits the full two delays and then releases what fell due in one burst.
  • The join test can't tell a jump from a gap (jumps(), line 346): still open, since that code didn't change.
  • No skip-based variant of the join test: still open. The new test also opens the generation with a restart.
  • The re-grade on the merged head is still owed.

Blocking

  1. Previous-generation frames can now be queued after the new generation's first deadline, which breaks the generation order Export relies on. lagging() (lines 311-314, 325-332) puts a frame on previous whenever it lands on that clock. It doesn't check whether the current generation already has frames due earlier, or already released. front() (lines 583-592) orders by generation first, and Ready promises that every frame of one generation goes out before any frame of the next (lines 35-37). Export::poll_next (container/ts/export.rs lines 936-950) rewinds on a newer generation and checks the order only with a debug_assert!. If the anchor under-covers the lagging track, there are two failures:

    • Gen-N+1 frames that are already due sit behind the queued gen-N frames, so they go out late, by up to however much the lag was under-covered.
    • If the gen-N queue empties between two lagging frames, which happens when arrival is bursty and the gap between reads is longer than the delay, a gen-N+1 frame goes out and Export rewinds. Then the next gen-N frame arrives. In debug builds the assert panics. In release, old-timeline media is muxed onto the new program after the rewind, which is the same failure as the first review's blocking finding.

    Here is how the anchor under-covers the lagging track. unheard_lag returns 0 when the fresh track has no lead, which is the case for a marker inside the first 2 s of decode after the export starts. A track with no lead isn't known, so if its lag is more than two delays, the acquisition ends without it. The horizon bump then puts the new generation only about a delay past the acquisition's end. With 100 ms of delay and audio sent 300 ms behind video, the old audio frames read 200-300 ms after the video crossed are due after the new generation's first frame. A second trigger is a sparse PID that isn't in expect (SCTE-35, KLV, ID3) but is sent later than the expected tracks: lagging() admits its old frames, and unheard_lag never accounts for it. Noise in a lead also does it, just by smaller margins.

    Fix: only put a frame on previous while its previous-clock deadline is no later than the earliest deadline given to the current generation, and before any current-generation frame has been released. For example, keep the current generation's first deadline, and clear previous once the generation's first frame goes out. Any other frame falls through to the current clock and drops as late, which is the behavior before this push. Also add an assertion to the new test that out never goes down in generation, and a variant with a marker before the first steering step.

Non-blocking

  1. Stale leads add latency to every later generation. leads is only ever added to (lines 509-511) and is cleared only by clear(). Picture a track that stays in the catalog but stops sending, such as the retained finished track export.rs mentions at line 975. It keeps the lead from its last step, so heard() (lines 601-606) treats it as known. If it was the latest-sent track, unheard_lag (lines 611-623) anchors every later generation later by the gap between the leads. For TS that's up to most of a second past --delay, and steering then takes about RESPONSE (600 s) to pull it back. A lead from a step in an earlier generation was also measured against that generation's anchor, which the horizon bump may have shifted. A fix is to skip finished tracks, or to keep only leads from the most recent step that included the track in the current or previous generation.
  2. cli.md overclaims slightly. "A track the source sends later than the rest crosses without losing frames" is true only once a steering step has measured the leads, and while the lag stays within what the anchor covers. It's worth a short qualifier.

Verdict: ITERATE. The fix for 1 is a few lines, and it makes the generation order hold even when the measured leads are wrong. Reviewed head ed6dd465a3530886f114aa59a5bf31b32e0a9ea7.

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A lagging track's old-clock frame could be queued after the new
generation's first frame was due or released, breaking the generation
order the TS export relies on. Queue it on the previous clock only while
it is due no later than the current generation's earliest deadline, and
stop once that generation has released a frame.

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On Grok's review of ed6dd465, pushed 78b7afd:

  1. Previous-generation frames queued after the new generation's first (blocking): fixed as suggested. lagging() now queues a frame on the previous clock only while it is due no later than the current generation's earliest queued deadline, and poll_next clears previous once the current generation releases a frame. Anything else falls through to the current clock and drops as late, as before ed6dd465. The crossing test is now a cross(steps, tail) helper that asserts generations never go down. A variant with the marker before the first steering step, and the audio's old timeline running one frame past the video's, sends gen 0 after gen 1 without the fix ([.., 1, 0, 1, ..]) and passes with it. In the lockstep case (both tracks' old timelines ending together) the horizon bump already covered the lagging track, so the out-of-order case needs a track whose old timeline runs past the leader's.
  2. Stale leads add latency (non-blocking): not addressed. A follow-up: keep only leads from the latest step that included the track, or skip finished tracks.
  3. cli.md overclaims: fixed. It now says the lead is kept once measured (two seconds of media), and an old-clock frame that would follow the new clock's first is dropped.

Also fixed CodeRabbit's finding: the upgrade note names both cases dropped counts.

cargo test -p moq-mux --lib (1084 tests) and clippy pass. Waiting for a review of the new head before merging.

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Grok follow-up review of head 78b7afdc (re-review after push; the last review was ITERATE on ed6dd465)

The push is one commit (78b7afdc, jitter.rs, cli.md, upgrade.md). lagging() now puts a frame on the previous generation only while its deadline is no later than the earliest one queued on the current generation (opened()), and the first current-generation release clears previous. The crossing test is now a cross(steps, tail) helper that asserts generations go out in order, plus a variant that restarts before any lead is measured.

Earlier findings

  • 1. Previous-generation frames queued after the new generation's first deadline: fixed. A frame is admitted to previous only while deadline <= opened(), and never after a current-generation frame went out. front() orders by generation, so generation N always drains before N+1 and Export's debug_assert! can't fire from this path. Both tests assert out.is_sorted().
  • 3. cli.md overclaim: fixed. It's now qualified by "once the export has measured each track's lead (two seconds of media)". The new "which is dropped" clause only holds for a forward jump, though (see 1 below).
  • 2. Stale leads of finished tracks: still open. leads is still only cleared by clear().
  • Still open from earlier rounds: jumps() can't tell a jump from a gap; there's no skip-based join test; an expected AC-3 or teletext PID that never sent anything still holds a join for two delays; the re-grade on the merged head is still owed.

Blocking

  1. A refused lagging frame is judged on the new clock. After a backward restart, that queues it far in the future instead of dropping it. When lagging() refuses a frame (now also whenever it would be due after opened(), or once previous is cleared), push() falls through to the current clock (lines 317-321). Nothing there checks that the frame belongs to the old timeline. jumps() doesn't catch it either: the restart counter hasn't changed, there's no skip, and no acquisition is under way. On a forward restart (the case the tests cover, 15 s on), the old decode time maps into the past and the frame drops as late, as cli.md says. On a restart onto an earlier timeline, such as an encoder that resets its timestamps (the test at line 917 restarts backward), the old decode time maps about one jump into the future. queue() (lines 463-469) accepts it because arrived <= deadline, and then:

    • the lagging track's queue head is a frame due one jump from now, so every later frame on that track waits behind it in front(). That track stalls, and when the frame finally goes out it carries old-timeline media on the new generation.
    • horizon jumps forward by the jump (line 468). bound() then admits nearly anything, so jumps()'s leap check stops firing. The next acquired() horizon bump (lines 422-426) anchors the next generation that far late, which stalls the whole output at the next restart.

    Here's how to trigger it. The under-covered cases from the last review still apply: a restart in the first two seconds, with audio sent 300 ms behind video at 100 ms of delay, or a sparse PID outside expect (SCTE-35, KLV, ID3) sent later than the expected tracks. Make the new timeline earlier than the old one. The audio's last old frames, refused by the new guard, get queued a full jump ahead.

    Even on a forward jump the refused frame isn't harmless, because push() still runs steer() on it (line 319) before it drops. Its phase is about minus the jump. If it's the first steer() call after acquired() reset Steer, floor.began is its old decode time, so the next new-timeline frame triggers a step at once. That writes about minus the jump into leads for the lagging track until the next step, so a restart in that window anchors roughly a jump late. It also leaves a far-low point in phase, which skews envelope() to a rate of about the jump over the elapsed decode for the next few steps. That inflates out_of_tolerance and the reported drift.

    Fix: a frame from a track still on an older generation (track.generation != clock.generation, restart counter unchanged) that lagging() refused should join the current clock only if it lands() there, the same test a crossing frame gets. Otherwise drop it as late and skip steer() for it. Then add a variant of cross() that restarts onto an earlier timeline, asserting the refused frame is dropped, out stays sorted, and next_deadline() stays within a delay.

Non-blocking

  1. No CI ran on this head, and the PR conflicts with main. It's 16 commits behind, and the only check is the skipped auto-merge. main has since touched container/ts/export.rs, export_test.rs, import.rs, moq-srt/src/ts.rs, cli.md and upgrade.md, through fix(moq-mux): refuse Opus TS tracks the channel code cannot label #4981 (Opus TS refusal), fix(mux): repeat the AAC program config over TS and stop it gating the catalog #4983 (AAC program config over TS), fix(mux)!: refuse AAC channel counts no channelConfiguration names #4973 (AAC channel counts) and feat(net)!: carry untimed tracks faithfully #4822 (untimed tracks). The merge needs a careful look at the export paths, and CI needs to run on the result.
  2. upgrade.md's dropped-frame description is slightly off. dropped() also counts any track's non-sync frames after a late drop, not just video frames, and frames that went stale during acquisition (Wait::Acquired) aren't counted at all. That's worth saying, or making the stat match.

Verdict: ITERATE. The ordering fix is right, but its fallback needs to drop old-timeline frames rather than map them onto the new clock. Reviewed head 78b7afdc2bfdc256af93e30b3b33270efd565982.

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Merged main in 55f5dbe (it had gone conflicting after #4981 and #4983 landed). mux keeps this PR's Queued shape and takes #4983's per-table AAC program config repeat; the stray Kind::Aac(_) patterns became Kind::Aac { .. }. The two merged-in TS tests that write a broadcast whole now use with_delay(..).with_replay() and drain past the delay. cargo test -p moq-mux --lib (1090) and clippy on moq-mux, moq-srt, and moq-cli pass.

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Grok follow-up review of head 6dfd45fa (re-review after push; the last review was ITERATE on 78b7afdc)

The push is a merge of origin/main (a5d8d893) plus one commit (6dfd45fa): Timing::buffer() now computes the HRD rate with saturating_mul, and two cli.md sentences say which clock --delay spans.

What the merge changed

I checked the conflict resolution against both sides, and it looks right. rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs is byte-identical to 78b7afdc. In container/ts/export.rs, the PR's +/- lines match the pre-merge PR except where it adapts to main: Kind::Aac(_) became Kind::Aac { .. } (#4983's PCE repeat) and the Opus { channel_config_code } rename (#4981). Main's PSI-driven repeat flag stays in the write path, so it still fires on each PAT/PMT whatever the jitter buffer releases. In export_test.rs, main's new recording tests moved from with_max_age(RECORDING_MAX_AGE) to with_delay(RECORDING_MAX_AGE) (plus with_replay() where they read history) and a DRAIN timeout. The rest of that file's diff is just hunks shifting. The PR's upgrade.md and cli.md lines are the same apart from the two rewordings.

The saturating_mul is defensive. An H.264/H.265 HRD rate tops out near 2^53 (a u32 value shifted by up to 21), so times 1,200 it stays under u64, and the result is capped by rate.min(level.leak) anyway. It's harmless and there's no test for it, which is fine.

Earlier findings

  • Non-blocking 2 (conflicts with main, no CI): fixed for the conflicts. GitHub now reports the PR as mergeable. CI is running on this head (Check, Test, Interop, Replay, WASM, Windows, macOS, Android all pending), so that half is still owed.
  • Blocking 1 (a lagging frame that lagging() refused is mapped onto the new clock): still open. jitter.rs didn't change, so after a restart onto an earlier timeline the refused old-timeline frame is still queued about one jump in the future. It stalls its track and pushes horizon out, and steer() still runs on it on a forward jump. The suggested fix from the last review still applies: let it join the current clock only if it lands() there, otherwise drop it as late without steering, and add a backward-restart variant of cross().
  • Still open: stale leads for finished tracks (only clear() resets them), jumps() can't tell a jump from a gap, there's no skip-based join test, an expected AC-3 or teletext PID that never sends still holds a join for two delays, and upgrade.md's dropped-frame wording (non-video non-sync drops count, Wait::Acquired stale frames don't).

Verdict: ITERATE. The merge is clean, but the backward-restart fallback in jitter.rs is still the blocker, and CI on the merged head hasn't reported yet. Reviewed head 6dfd45fafa8849a6a54fde778df80d8ca1242f57.

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Reviewed commit: 899ef70, against my previous d7323b0 review, accounting for both main merges.

Still actionable, already independently reported:

  • [P2] Exclude rejected old-generation frames from clock recovery. I confirm the forward-jump portion of Grok's finding, without another inline thread. In rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs:313–321, a frame refused by lagging() still reaches steer() before being dropped on the current clock. If it is the first steering sample after acquisition, its old decode time becomes floor.began; the next forward-timeline frame immediately completes the window and saves the jump-sized negative phase in leads (:509–526). Another restart before that measurement is replaced feeds this false lag into unheard_lag (:627–638), delaying the new generation by the timeline jump. Decide generation membership before mutating recovery state: reject an off-clock old-generation frame without steering, while retaining valid unmarked crossings. Add a two-forward-restart regression with a lagging old frame as the first post-acquisition sample; assert bounded release deadlines and unpolluted lead/drift measurements.

Earlier findings:

  • Learned leads now cover a track crossing after acquisition, and the previous-clock cutoff prevents generation-order reversal. The tests at jitter.rs:1046–1061 cover both the measured-lead case and an early marker.
  • Timestamp-reset-to-zero remains unsupported: container/consumer.rs:489–504 rejects backward group timestamps. I would not treat the related backward-reset example as a separate supported TS-export regression.
  • Stale finished-track leads and the sparse/skip acquisition regression gaps remain existing follow-ups. No additional distinct defect established in the merge adaptations.

Direction: preserving source lead and enforcing generation order are useful improvements; one explicit old/current/held/drop decision before queueing or steering would make the boundary safer and easier to reason about.

Verification: GitHub-only static delta, surrounding-code and test inspection; no Rust, T-STD, capture or netem execution. Exact head, open/non-draft state and reviews rechecked. Android and Audio quality passed; Check, Interop, Platform and WASM were still running. Capture/loss/1+1 re-grading remains outstanding.

A frame from a track still on an earlier generation, crossing no restart,
that the previous clock refused fell through to the current clock: it was
steered on (seeding a floor with the old decode time on a forward jump)
and, after a backward restart, queued about one jump in the future. It now
drops as late unless it lands on the current clock, which keeps unmarked
crossings joining the new generation.

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Merged main in 899ef70a (it had gone conflicting). Only two quest files conflicted: quest/m1/README.md keeps this PR's "shared jitter buffer" wording plus main's new MKV lacing entry, and ts-passthrough.md keeps main's TS restart blocker but drops the tstd/delay.md blocker this PR completes.

Pushed 50935e6f for the OpenAI review of 899ef70a (P2) and Grok's still-open blocking finding from 78b7afdc: a frame from a track still on an earlier generation, crossing no restart, that lagging() refused fell through to the current clock. On a forward restart it was steered on, seeding the floor with its old decode time; after a backward restart it queued about one jump in the future. push() now drops such a frame as late, without steering, unless it lands on the current clock, so unmarked crossings still join the new generation. an_old_frame_after_a_forward_restart_is_not_steered_on and an_old_frame_after_a_backward_restart_is_dropped both fail without it. The cli.md sentence ("which is dropped") now holds for both directions.

just check passes on the new head.

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Reviewed commit: 50935e6, the single jitter-buffer fix since my 899ef70a review; no new main merge in this delta.

The previous forward-restart P2, also independently reported in Grok's finding, is addressed. In rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs:321–331, an older-generation frame with an unchanged restart counter that lands on neither usable clock now returns before steer(), without advancing its generation or horizon. This removes the path that seeded a jump-sized false lead and delayed a subsequent restart. On-clock unmarked crossings still reach the current generation. The regressions at :1082–1113 assert an empty queue, an untouched steering floor and successful subsequent crossing, for both jump directions.

No additional distinct actionable defect established in this one-commit update. Direction is good: generation membership is decided before recovery-state mutation. The backward case strengthens the buffer's isolation; it does not establish timestamp-reset TS support, since container/consumer.rs:489–504 still rejects backward group timestamps. Existing sparse/skip acquisition and finished-track-lead follow-ups, plus capture/loss/1+1 re-grading, remain outside this fix.

Verification: GitHub-only static delta, surrounding-code and test inspection; no Rust, T-STD, capture or netem execution. Open/non-draft state, exact head and prior reviews rechecked. Audio quality passed; Check, Interop, Platform, WASM and Android remain in progress. GitHub currently reports mergeable=false.

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Grok follow-up review of head 50935e6f (re-review after push; the last review was ITERATE on 6dfd45fa)

The push is a merge of origin/main (899ef70a) plus one commit (50935e6f, jitter.rs only). The merge carries nothing PR-side: container/ts/export.rs is byte-identical to 6dfd45fa, and every other file's PR +/- lines match the previous head, except quest/m1/ts-passthrough.md, which no longer deletes a ## Required section that main already removed.

Earlier findings

  • Blocking 1 (a lagging frame that lagging() refused is mapped onto the new clock): fixed. In Buffer::push (jitter.rs:318-331), a frame from a track still on an earlier generation, with no new restart, that lagging() refused and that doesn't lands() on the current clock is now queued with no deadline on its old generation, so it drops as Late. It doesn't touch horizon, it doesn't reach steer(), and the track stays on its old generation, so a later frame that lands on the new timeline still joins it. That's the fix the last review suggested. stray(to) covers both directions: forward (20_000) asserts no steering floor, backward (0) asserts nothing queued, and both check that the next sync frame lands on generation 1.
  • Still open, all non-blocking and unchanged since jitter.rs only gained this branch: stale leads for finished tracks (only clear() resets them), jumps() can't tell a jump from a gap, there's no skip-based join test, an expected AC-3 or teletext PID that never sends still holds a join for two delays, and upgrade.md's dropped-frame wording. That last one now also covers these refused old-timeline frames, which count toward dropped().

New, non-blocking

  1. The test only exercises one of lagging()'s two refusals. In both stray cases the old frame is late on the previous clock. The other refusal, a frame that lands on the previous clock but is due after opened() (the new generation's first deadline), goes down the same new path but isn't tested. One case where the old track's frame is on time on the old clock but behind the new generation's first release would pin that it's dropped and not released out of turn.
  2. Interop will fail on this head for a reason outside this PR. Interop failed on both 6dfd45fa and 899ef70a with error[E0061] in rs/moq-net/tests/dial_split_horizon.rs: request_broadcast("room") misses the new epoch argument from fix(net): give an anonymous dial its own hop #5025. The merged base d5988c29 has that broken call; current main has request_broadcast("room", None). So this head will fail Interop the same way until it merges main again. Test, Check, and the rest passed on 899ef70a, and CI on 50935e6f is still running (Replay has passed).

Verdict: MERGE once CI is green, after another merge of main for the Interop fix. The backward-restart blocker is fixed and tested, and what's left is non-blocking. Reviewed head 50935e6f37001b378a628709354c393aea724643.

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The join-dependent latency at 500 ms, located: it is which track anchors the clock

On main at f8215bc47, moq export ts --delay 500ms presents a broadcast clip at either about
1,274 ms or 991–1,026 ms depending on when it joins. We re-ran eight 60 s joins spread across a GOP
on a scratch build of f8215bc47 that only adds an info! at acquisition: the anchor, and for each
track its freshest frame's read time less its decode time. Every join's latency came back within
2 ms of its run on the unmodified build.

Source started later by (s) Presentation (ms) Tracks heard before anchoring Anchor
0 1,275.7 all, in 938 ms AC-3
0.15 1,025.6 all but AC-3; acquisition timed out at 1 s MP2
0.3 991.3 all but AC-3 and MP2; timed out at 1 s teletext
0.45 1,273.1 all, in 260 ms AC-3
0.6 1,274.0 all, in 416 ms AC-3
0.75 1,272.5 all, in 555 ms AC-3
0.9 1,275.5 all, in 709 ms AC-3
1.05 1,272.1 all, in 847 ms AC-3

The clock anchors on the track whose freshest frame is furthest behind its decode time. On this clip
that is AC-3 whenever acquisition hears it: at the first join its freshest frame read 249.3 ms
further behind than MP2's. Both audio tracks are packed nine frames to a PES (MP2 216 ms, AC-3
288 ms), so the packing accounts for at most 72 ms of that; the rest is how far ahead the source
sends its AC-3. A join whose acquisition times out before AC-3 arrives anchors on MP2 or teletext and
presents 250–283 ms sooner.

Those joins still delivered every AC-3 unit, with 0 late drops, and every join passed the T-STD
(compliance.py and an independent grader) with identical minimum buffer margins: video 213.9 ms,
MP2 69.3 ms, AC-3 144.6 ms in all eight. So on this clip, on a clean path, no join needed the
~250 ms that anchoring on AC-3 adds. We have not measured whether that headroom matters under loss.

Two questions:

  1. Is the difference intended? As it stands the same configuration presents at two latencies about
    250 ms apart, decided by whether AC-3 is heard within the acquisition window. A deterministic
    choice either way, always waiting for every track or anchoring on the tracks that set the
    schedule's margins, would make the latency predictable.
  2. Why can AC-3 go unheard for the whole 1 s window, when the source carries an AC-3 PES every
    288 ms? We have not located it.

The logging patch is about 50 lines on rs/moq-mux/src/jitter.rs, and we can share it if useful.

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