docs(quest): drop suffix-based routing from the plans - #4382
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Maintainer decision: suffix-based routing is no longer planned. Rewrite the wildcard line, path patterns, processor, broadcast epoch, and cluster routing quests around prefix claims and the longest-prefix rule, and drop the relay cluster doc's promise of non-prefix pattern resolution. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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WalkthroughDocumentation and plans now describe wildcard advertisements as prefix claims. They specify longest-covering-prefix routing, advertiser ordering, and terminal refusal behavior. Related updates cover demand visibility, derived-output paths, and advertise-scope authorization. Pattern grammar descriptions no longer list wildcard advertisements as a pattern consumer. Priority: ⬇️ Low Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to Align the routing and v1 authorization documentation before merging to avoid implementing inconsistent advertiser selection, refusal, and permission behavior. Security Architecture ReviewSecurity architecture risk: 🔵 Low · up to The plans give conflicting authorization rules for the same prefix claims. This could misguide a future rollout, but this PR does not change deployed permissions, and no current exploit is established. Retained concerns
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| A prefix claim needs the variable part of a path trailing, so a fleet-wide | ||
| service claims its own prefix and mirrors the source path beneath it | ||
| (`.transcode/<pid>/foo.hang`) rather than publishing beneath the source. The | ||
| source's catalog reaches the contribution through a cross-broadcast reference. |
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With the documented .transcode/... layout, broad-scope web consumers cannot discover the claim: js/watch/src/broadcast.ts opens origin.announced() without { hidden: true }, while js/net/src/origin.ts excludes dot-prefixed routes unless hidden discovery is enabled or the requested scope explicitly names the dot segment. For consumers granted a broad root scope, the Demand plan's Path.hasPrefix check therefore never sees .transcode, so the catalog rendition remains filtered and no demand starts. Choose a visible prefix or include targeted hidden-route discovery in the plan.
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Agreed, this was a real gap. Maintainer decision: keep the .transcode layout, and have the player's cross-broadcast check opt into hidden routes (announced({ hidden: true })). Hiding only narrows listings, and this check lists nothing to the user, so opting in is safe. It still relies on the relay and the token's scope exposing those routes to the browser.
Recorded in the Demand plan (quest/m0/wildcard/demand.md) and the wildcard README in 73859d0. The wildcard line already implemented Demand, so the matching code fix goes to that branch in its own PR.
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Refined by the maintainer: derived output lives under moq.pro's hidden .pro/<service>/... prefix (for example .pro/transcode/<source path>). It is hidden on purpose, so customers on moq-lite-06 or older never see .pro/ broadcasts. The player's check opts into hidden routes, which works once lite-07 is negotiated; a subscribe to the explicit .pro/<service>/... path works on any version. Recorded in f6b0909 here and in #4391 for the line.
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| Request resolution is prefix-only (`best_server` in | ||
| `rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs`) and stays that way. The pattern matcher | ||
| itself exists: `moq_net::{Pattern, Patterns, Segment}` and `Path.Pattern` / | ||
| `Path.Patterns` in `js/net/src/path.ts` own the shared matching, containment, | ||
| specificity, and rebasing advertisements reuse. | ||
| specificity, and rebasing tokens and filters reuse. |
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The revised description says routing stays prefix-only, but lines 57-61 of this page still claim that Rust and TypeScript announcement updates carry matcher patterns, even though their current APIs expose prefix; js/pattern/README.md:13-14, rs/moq-pattern/README.md:9-11, and rs/moq-net/src/path/mod.rs:7-9 also still promise wildcard advertisements as a pattern consumer. These contradictions keep the abandoned routing work in scope, so update them alongside this decision.
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Announcements carry a path prefix since #3770, so the wildcard quest and the pattern crate docs no longer list wildcard advertisements as a pattern consumer. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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| claim on. An advertisement must be contained by one of the publisher's granted | ||
| prefixes (`grant/**`); an over-wide pattern is refused rather than clamped. | ||
| prefixes (`grant/**`); an over-wide prefix is refused rather than clamped. |
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For a publisher scoped to a pattern such as pid/*.hang, Producer::dynamic("pid", ...) is accepted: Announcing::new checks allowed.overlaps(&claim), and requests outside the scope are refused individually. This documentation instead promises that the broader pid/ advertisement itself is rejected, so operators cannot rely on the documented fail-early behavior. Describe the overlap and request-filtering semantics, or change the authorization check if full containment is intended.
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Fixed in 8179d38: cluster.md now describes overlap plus per-request filtering.
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A `.transcode/` service prefix is hidden from default discovery, so the Demand check must ask for hidden routes to see the claim covering a rendition. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
`Announcing::new` accepts a claim that overlaps the grant, and the route entry only serves requests the grant matches, so a wider claim is not refused. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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| - **Containment against the publish scope is what authorization checks.** An | ||
| advertised pattern MUST be contained by the sender's granted patterns (the | ||
| matcher's containment check). This handles literal-headed and leading-star | ||
| patterns identically and refuses any attempted widening rather than clamping | ||
| it. Fleet-wide services use the cluster identity; a customer service may | ||
| advertised prefix MUST be contained by the sender's granted patterns (the | ||
| matcher's containment check), and any attempted widening is refused rather | ||
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For a producer scoped to room, Producer::dynamic("") is intentionally accepted: Announcing::new checks allowed.overlaps(&claim), and best_route filters individual requests through entry.scope.matches(path), as covered by dynamic_may_cover_a_scope_but_disjoint_prefixes_are_refused. Although cluster.md was corrected after the prior review, this changed decision still says the broad prefix is refused, so implementing the quest literally would regress supported broad-claim behavior; describe overlap plus per-request filtering instead.
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Fixed in b7afe24: the wildcard plan's authorization decision says overlap, with a wider claim routing only what the grant covers.
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Mirror derived output under `.pro/<service>/`, moq.pro's convention. The prefix is hidden so customers on moq-lite-06 or older never see it; the player's covering check sees it only on lite-07, and an explicit subscribe works on any version. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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| - **A claim is priced, not special-cased.** Within a tier, route selection | ||
| stays one comparison on one metric. Concrete-versus-claim is not decided | ||
| by price at all: a concrete announcement is the longest prefix, so "longest | ||
| prefix wins" above already shadows every claim behind it at any cost. The |
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Once this revision makes service claims ordinary prefix advertisements, they use the same Route metadata as every other Producer::dynamic route. The retained decision at lines 133-136 still directs the implementation to encode only one cost varint, contradicting both doc/bin/relay/cluster.md:90-95 and the existing lite-06 codec, which carry distinct warm and cold costs for all announcements. There is no wire-level claim type that could use a different encoding, so following this plan would require an incompatible wire change; remove the single-varint decision and retain the normal cost pair.
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Fixed in b7afe24: the one-cost-varint decision is dropped; prefix claims carry the normal warm and cold costs.
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| A prefix claim needs the variable part of a path trailing, so a fleet-wide | ||
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| (`.pro/transcode/<pid>/foo.hang`, moq.pro's convention) rather than publishing |
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.transcode service prefix
Fresh evidence in this revision is that the mirrored layout is now spelled .pro/transcode/<pid>/..., while the maintainer response on the prior thread explicitly retained .transcode/<pid>/...; the commit description also still names .transcode. Implementing this text would mint different broadcast URLs and require different grants and metering rules from the decided layout, so restore .transcode/<pid>/... consistently in this page, Demand, and Broadcast epochs.
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Not restoring. The maintainer refined the decision after that reply: derived output lives under moq.pro's hidden .pro/<service>/... prefix, which is what this page, Demand, and Broadcast epochs now say (see the follow-up on the P1 thread). The squash commit takes the PR title and description, which use .pro.
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| there. Hidden routes are a moq-lite-07 feature, so the player's covering check | ||
| opts into them ([Demand](/quest/m0/wildcard/demand.md)) and sees a claim only | ||
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The claim is not discoverable only when lite-07 is negotiated: IETF sessions implement the MoQ Hidden extension, and js/net/src/ietf/subscriber.ts:192-214 sends the hidden opt-in when the peer advertises the corresponding SETUP option. As written, the quest can lead its implementation and regression coverage to leave IETF playback filtered even though both protocol stacks support the required discovery; describe lite-07 or negotiated MoQ Hidden instead of limiting availability to lite-07.
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Leaving IETF out on purpose. The maintainer is changing IETF hidden-route behavior in a separate quest (#4394), so this PR only states the lite-07 case.
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Align the wildcard decisions with shipped behavior: a claim must overlap the grant and only routes requests the grant covers, and prefix claims carry the normal warm and cold costs, as the line branch already says. Use the <pid> placeholder in the epoch example. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5.5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Fresh evidence after the earlier pattern-advertisement finding is that this replacement now says announcements carry prefixes, but the retained decision at lines 142-145 still says subscribers receive every matching pattern, rebased and deduplicated. AnnounceUpdate and Update expose one prefix and only filter it locally (rs/moq-net/src/model/origin.rs:1184-1202, js/net/src/announced.ts:18-38), so implementing the quest literally would reintroduce pattern-valued advertisements or leave the visibility contract internally contradictory. Rewrite that decision and its Demand/test wording around filtered prefix updates and withdrawal.
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Fixed in 3d63b64: subscribers see advertised prefixes under their scope, filtered locally like any announcement; no pattern rebasing.
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🟡 Minor · Document the actual same-prefix ranking keys. · README.md:103-110
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick winDocument the actual same-prefix ranking keys.
Among eligible routes that serve the requested path,
best_routeselects the minimumroute_orderkey. The key ranks identified routes, cost, local publication, hop count, a hash of the advertised prefix and hop chain, and announcement age. It does not hash the requested path or advertiser origin. The README can therefore describe a different advertiser selection.- deterministic hash of the REQUESTED path against each advertiser, so distinct - paths spread rather than one advertiser winning the whole prefix. + route order: identified routes, cost, local publication, hop count, a + deterministic hash of the advertised prefix and hop chain, then announcement + age. The requested path affects eligibility, not this same-prefix ordering.🤖 Prompt for AI Agents
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🟡 Minor · Keep the longest prefix as a refusal barrier. · resolve.md:99-101
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🎯 Functional Correctness | 🟡 Minor | ⚡ Quick winKeep the longest prefix as a refusal barrier.
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| - [Local origin](/quest/m0/local-origin.md) - workers stop reading hop chains before they go | ||
| - [Wildcard](/quest/m0/wildcard/README.md) - the longest-prefix rule, pool spread, and reply identity this selection builds on |
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The new Related entries duplicate dependencies already listed under Required, leaving the original Wildcard entry at line 117 promising the obsolete “specificity” behavior that this commit replaces with longest-prefix routing. An implementation following the required dependency can therefore still preserve the abandoned rule; update the existing Required description and remove these duplicate entries. (Written by GPT-5.6 Sol)
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| - [Wildcard advertisements](/quest/m0/wildcard/README.md) - routes on prefix | ||
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When implementing Path patterns, the required Lite auth quest still explicitly directs changing ANNOUNCE_REQUEST prefixes to patterns (quest/m1/auth/lite.md:150-151), and the auth overview repeats that requirement (quest/m1/auth/README.md:123). That conflicts with this revised plan's prefix-only announce interest and consume-side filtering, leaving mutually exclusive wire instructions that could reintroduce the wire change this commit rejects. Update those dependency descriptions so only AUTH grants move to patterns. (Written by GPT-5.6 Sol)
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Fixed in a99108b: the auth quests now move only AUTH grants to patterns; ANNOUNCE_REQUEST stays a prefix.
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Maintainer decision (#4393 audit): suffix-based routing is dropped from every m0-m2 quest and lives only in Suffix announce, a moq-lite-only m3 extension.
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mainstill plan it: a leading-wildcard claim like**/transcode.proshadowing the catch-all**, specificity tiers between pattern claims, and contributions published beneath their source (<source>/<processor>.pro) so a suffix pattern can route them. #3770 already made advertisements prefix-only, and the wildcard line branch (quest/m1/wildcard/README) dropped the suffix layout.main's copy of the line (moved toquest/m0/wildcard/by #4213) still carries the old text.Approach
Quest and doc text only. Suffix routing is removed, and everything else is rewritten around prefix claims and the longest-prefix rule. Where the line branch already has wording, this PR reuses it so the line merges cleanly.
quest/m0/wildcard/README.md**/transcode.proexample.pid/foo.hang/transcode.pro,.proas the routed marker) and its argument against mirroring are replaced by a mirrored-prefix layout under moq.pro's hidden.pro/<service>/convention (.pro/transcode/<pid>/foo.hang). Maintainer decision: the prefix is hidden so customers on moq-lite-06 or older never see.pro/broadcasts; hidden routes are a lite-07 feature, and an explicit subscribe to the path works on any version.quest/m0/wildcard/resolve.mdquest/m0/wildcard/demand.md: the player's covering check staysPath.hasPrefix. The plan to match announced patterns is dropped. Maintainer decision: the check opts into hidden routes so a.pro/transcode/claim is visible to it once lite-07 is negotiated (line fix in fix(watch): see hidden .pro claims when gating renditions #4391).quest/m1/path-patterns.md: the Goal no longer says advertisements express**/transcode.pro, and Related says routing stays on prefixes. Grant and filter patterns (including leading**and structural specificity for rule precedence) are a separate feature and stay.quest/m1/processor/README.md,quest/m1/processor/advertise-auth.md<source>/<processor>.probehind a suffix claim.quest/m1/broadcast-epoch/README.md: derived output mirrors the epoch path (.pro/transcode/pid/foo.hang/@e). fix(watch): see hidden .pro claims when gating renditions #4391 makes the line branch match.quest/m1/cluster-routing.md: "Specificity still ranks first" now reads "the longest covering prefix still ranks first".doc/bin/relay/cluster.mdjs/pattern/README.md,rs/moq-pattern/README.md,rs/moq-net/src/path/mod.rs, and the wildcard README's feat(net)!: announcements are prefix routes #3225 paragraph: stop listing wildcard advertisements as a pattern consumer, since announcements carry a prefix.No quest is deleted: each one still has prefix work left.
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moq-pattern'sSpecificityships, but it only ranks consume-side scope members, not routes, so it stays.Alternatives
resolve.mdanddemand.mdonmain, since the line branch already finished them. Not done here: the line's own merge deletes them, and editing them keepsmainaccurate until then.Follow-ups
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